From unknown Fri Aug 15 01:54:43 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#10656 <10656@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#10656 <10656@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.92; Duplicate large block deallocation Reply-To: bug#10656 <10656@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 08:54:43 +0000 retitle 10656 24.0.92; Duplicate large block deallocation reassign 10656 emacs submitter 10656 Dave Abrahams severity 10656 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 30 11:31:23 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2012 16:31:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45406 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rru8W-0006Hc-6E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:31:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rru8P-0006HM-E2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:31:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rru81-0005Ck-4P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:30:57 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:37436) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rru81-0005Cf-2T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:30:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39324) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rru7s-0007ta-Bs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:30:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rru7e-0005AY-Dh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:30:40 -0500 Received: from mail-vx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:52225) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rru7e-0005AP-8e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:30:26 -0500 Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so3350601vcb.0 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.231.72 with SMTP id jp8mr9141722vcb.70.1327941024640; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z1sm16021186vdh.11.2012.01.30.08.30.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:30:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id AC65C239412F; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:30:23 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Abrahams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.92; Duplicate large block deallocation Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:30:23 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) I'm seeing this in one of my Gnus article buffers, which seems like it must be a core Emacs bug: Duplicate large block deallocation of 0x10cf78000 Duplicate large block deallocation In GNU Emacs 24.0.92.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.36) of 2011-12-23 on bob.porkrind.org Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1138 configured using `configure '--host=x86_64-apple-darwin' '--build=i686-apple-darwin' '--with-ns' 'build_alias=i686-apple-darwin' 'host_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin' 'CC=gcc -mmacosx-version-min=10.5'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Summary Minor modes in effect: highlight-changes-visible-mode: t recentf-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t pretty-control-l-mode: t Info-breadcrumbs-in-mode-line-mode: t workgroups-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t me-minor-mode: t show-paren-mode: t server-mode: t ido-everywhere: t global-auto-revert-mode: t display-time-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: n e e i n g SPC t h i s SPC i n SPC o n e SPC o f SPC m y SPC G n u s SPC a r t i c l e SPC b u g f f f f e r s : C-y C-x b * M e s M-> C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p M-< M-> C-x C-k C-p C-p C-p C-p C-e , SPC w h i c h SPC s e e m s SPC l i k e SPC i t SPC m u c s t SPC b e SPC a SPC c o r e SPC e m a c s SPC b u g . 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register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process ns multi-tty emacs) -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 01:14:47 2012 Received: (at 10656) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 06:14:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46168 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs6zP-0002Za-AF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:14:47 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:53467) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs6zL-0002ZL-8h for 10656@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:14:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BF239E8007; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:14:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fwnwrV6WY68c; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:14:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6897C39E8006; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:14:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:14:17 -0800 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: Duplicate large block deallocation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) I think that diagnostic is not coming from Emacs; it's coming from the Boehm conservative garbage collector, which presumably is in the Darwin runtime library. I have my doubts whether Boehm GC will work with Emacs as-is, as Emacs encodes pointers and this is likely to fool the GC. Can you build Emacs without the Boehm GC? That might fix the problem. For more on this, see: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.programming.garbage-collection.boehmgc/410 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 09:47:28 2012 Received: (at 10656) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 14:47:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46560 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsEzX-0002E4-80 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:47:28 -0500 Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.212.44]:56020) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsEzU-0002Dp-UO for 10656@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:47:26 -0500 Received: by vbbfr13 with SMTP id fr13so52794vbb.3 for <10656@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.17.46 with SMTP id l14mr10518302vdd.60.1328021223316; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fa4sm19236126vdc.19.2012.01.31.06.47.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2005123C9962; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:47:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Abrahams To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: Duplicate large block deallocation References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:47:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:14:17 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) on Tue Jan 31 2012, Paul Eggert wrote: > I think that diagnostic is not coming from Emacs; it's coming > from the Boehm conservative garbage collector, which > presumably is in the Darwin runtime library. I have my > doubts whether Boehm GC will work with Emacs as-is, as Emacs > encodes pointers and this is likely to fool the GC. > Can you build Emacs without the Boehm GC? That might > fix the problem. 1. I doubt Darwin's runtime contains the BoehmGC. 2. It's implausible that use of the BoehmGC is being injected into Emacs without being explicitly requested as part of its build instructions. If Darwin's autoconf, etc., were doing something like that, I would have heard about it (and it would break way too much software). 3. Even if the implausible (2) were in fact the case, if it's not part of Emacs's build instructions, how could I possibly "build Emacs without the Boehm GC?" 4. I've been using builds from http://emacsformacosx.com/builds; it's just easier than building my own. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 13:31:08 2012 Received: (at 10656) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 18:31:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47552 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsITz-0000mg-H4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:31:07 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:60404) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsITw-0000m9-DP for 10656@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:31:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1B439E800D; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:30:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X+3sjUBzquni; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D655E39E8006; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:30:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:30:40 -0800 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: Duplicate large block deallocation References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 01/31/2012 06:47 AM, Dave Abrahams wrote: > I've been using builds from http://emacsformacosx.com/builds; it's > just easier than building my own. Can you check the source code from that location, and look for the string "Duplicate large block deallocation"? That string is not in the Emacs source code itself, but it is in the Boehm GC. The string has to be coming from *somewhere*; perhaps it's an auxiliary library that is in that location. I agree that it's implausible that the Boehm GC would be run as a default sort of build; it's just that I don't see how the Emacs source code itself could be doing this. 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[207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ie6sm20043259vdb.5.2012.01.31.10.50.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2AAB023E0112; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:50:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Abrahams To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: Duplicate large block deallocation References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:50:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:30:40 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) on Tue Jan 31 2012, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 01/31/2012 06:47 AM, Dave Abrahams wrote: >> I've been using builds from http://emacsformacosx.com/builds; it's >> just easier than building my own. > > Can you check the source code from that location, and look for > the string "Duplicate large block deallocation"? They don't publish the source, but AFAIK it's standard Emacs with "no extras! no nonsense!" (see ) > That string is not in the Emacs source code itself, but it is in the > Boehm GC. The string has to be coming from *somewhere*; perhaps it's > an auxiliary library that is in that location. Quite possible. It's in a Gnus buffer, so I'd normally be inclined to suspect some auxilliary imap library or something, but Gnus can display the raw message with no trouble. Oh, you know, I bet it's w3m. > I agree that it's implausible that the Boehm GC would be run > as a default sort of build; it's just that I don't see how the > Emacs source code itself could be doing this. Yeah. I'd say, close this bug until evidence becomes clearer. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 13:51:19 2012 Received: (at 10656) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 18:51:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsInW-0001Gr-8t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:51:19 -0500 Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.220.172]:40711) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsInU-0001GZ-H6 for 10656@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:51:17 -0500 Received: by vcbfk14 with SMTP id fk14so305358vcb.3 for <10656@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.38.102 with SMTP id f6mr11239655vdk.70.1328035854493; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm19642942vdh.1.2012.01.31.10.50.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id DE62023E0359; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:50:52 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Abrahams To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: Duplicate large block deallocation References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:50:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:30:40 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) See https://trac.macports.org/ticket/30710 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 14:00:13 2012 Received: (at 10656) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 19:00:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47588 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsIw9-0001UZ-Hq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:00:13 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:54993 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsIw7-0001US-S5 for 10656@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:00:12 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsIvq-0003PO-EQ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:59:54 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#10656: Duplicate large block deallocation References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> X-Spook: Compsec 9705 Samford Road Firewalls mailbomb Pine Gap X-Ran: TyjztO6eOxJol'fKq-!,MO}QE7Z\B{$ElSXc;iHef[$j{O/uFi)&`\-t@6iigf.q&R*RIs X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:59:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:50:15 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Eggert X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Dave Abrahams wrote: > They don't publish the source Isn't that, like, bad? 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[207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h8sm20076936vdj.20.2012.01.31.11.04.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 19E8223E1EB1; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:04:25 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Abrahams To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#10656: Duplicate large block deallocation References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:04:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:59:54 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Eggert X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) on Tue Jan 31 2012, Glenn Morris wrote: > Dave Abrahams wrote: > >> They don't publish the source > > Isn't that, like, bad? IIUC you don't have to publish if you don't change anything... do you? -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 18:21:02 2012 Received: (at 10656-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 23:21:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47773 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsN0W-0000dH-29 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:21:01 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:39639) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsN0R-0000d1-8q for 10656-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:20:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F04639E800E; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:20:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f03GZITKgQlg; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46E2C39E8007; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:20:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F28773D.3000607@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:20:29 -0800 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#10656: Duplicate large block deallocation References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656-done Cc: Glenn Morris , 10656-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 01/31/2012 11:04 AM, Dave Abrahams wrote: > IIUC you don't have to publish if you don't change anything... do you? Yes, if they ship executables they must also publish the source, even if the source has not changed. The GPL is quite clear on this point. They are allowed to point to a copy of the source on the Internet, but it's their responsibility to make sure that the copy stays on the Internet for at least three years, and it's questionable whether they can fulfill this obligation merely by pointing at a gnu.org copy, as the GNU project sometimes takes source code down for various reasons. > I'd say, close this bug until evidence becomes clearer. OK, thanks, I'm closing it now. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 01 10:05:07 2012 Received: (at 10656) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2012 15:05:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49313 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsbkB-00013q-6j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:05:07 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:50755 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rsbk8-00013i-43 for 10656@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:05:05 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rsbjl-0008AQ-QC; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:04:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:04:41 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Paul Eggert In-reply-to: <4F28773D.3000607@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:20:29 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#10656: Duplicate large block deallocation References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> <4F28773D.3000607@cs.ucla.edu> X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) They are allowed to point to a copy of the source on the Internet, Only if they have made an arrangement to assure the source will remain available in the place they point to it. but it's their responsibility to make sure that the copy stays on the Internet for at least three years, and it's questionable whether they can fulfill this obligation merely by pointing at a gnu.org copy, as the GNU project sometimes takes source code down for various reasons. It is not questionable at all -- it is clearly inadequate. (We do not make such arrangements -- we have other work to do.) So they are violating the GPL. Would you like to tell them? Or else, send a report to license-violation@gnu.org? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 01 13:12:00 2012 Received: (at 10656) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2012 18:12:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49464 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rsef1-000793-U1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:12:00 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:48329) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rseev-00078i-3A for 10656@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:11:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8077A60006; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 10:11:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yp49zftuf+d5; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 10:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 194A8A60002; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 10:11:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F29804B.6090900@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:11:23 -0800 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Caldwell Subject: Re: bug#10656: Duplicate large block deallocation References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> <4F28773D.3000607@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 02/01/2012 07:04 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Would you like to tell them? OK, I'll send this message to David Caldwell, the person who does those Emacs builds, so that he is aware of the problem. David, it came to our attention when that your web site is distributing binaries for GNU Emacs without also distributing the source code. The GNU General Public License, which GNU Emacs is distributed under, requires that if you distribute executables, you are obligated to also distribute the source code; it does not suffice to ask the user to get the source from gnu.org. The detailed requirements for this are in section 6 of the GPL , and as far as I can see your web site is not following these requirements. Can you please fix this as soon as you can? Thanks. For the thread that led to this email, please see . From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 01 21:01:23 2012 Received: (at 10656) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2012 02:01:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49743 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RslzG-0001bH-Oo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:01:23 -0500 Received: from sa38.galvanix.net ([98.126.48.38]:58720 helo=kill.porkrind.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RslzC-0001b5-Nv for 10656@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:01:21 -0500 Received: from porkrind.org (cpe-66-74-178-118.socal.res.rr.com [66.74.178.118]) by kill.porkrind.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44D8C5F157; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:00:40 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: kill.porkrind.org; dkim=pass (1536-bit key; insecure key) header.i=@porkrind.org header.b=TtIIqjs0; dkim-adsp=pass Received-SPF: pass (porkrind.org: authenticated connection) receiver=porkrind.org; client-ip=127.0.0.1; helo=black.porkrind.org; envelope-from=david@porkrind.org; x-software=spfmilter 0.97 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/ with libspf-unknown; Received: from black.porkrind.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by porkrind.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2) with ESMTP id q1220Y3p022705 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:00:38 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=porkrind.org; s=apoptygma; t=1328148039; bh=8erL7l1BsFfdrD/DLp+are0vIxPbJYzGGhNBR9iIdXs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=TtIIqjs0SEOZyb2zULPXMUci2Zx2dYD5qdesV8BzHseFmRHml5r6PRj2mjgWdCi1p f5x83N4ugh56oPn1+nJtnvgukwXLWCf0BxsN0zd/qc281XKtWpy281y8ASDhNW5uPx KuYnNbAcVTXlQs0h1sihakH1jXh6Ygj96DV0bW8g3S5Cv/9BYBjlRFGgp1EbqZeEIJ aQP6JEszrAJnyKozW93x34LT35v8n4MFpPcTGeI4+746pjSzTIEnlqW434L Message-ID: <4F29EE3C.2060600@porkrind.org> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:00:28 -0800 From: David Caldwell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re:emacsformacosx.com & the GPL References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> <4F28773D.3000607@cs.ucla.edu> <4F29804B.6090900@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: <4F29804B.6090900@cs.ucla.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAQAAAD9CzEMAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAALEwEAmpwY AAAABGdBTUEAALGOfPtRkwAAACBjSFJNAAB6JQAAgIMAAPn/AACA6QAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF2+S X8VGAAABiklEQVR42rRYSZIDIQwzLv7/ZXLoEAzeBKG7ag4DRhZeBKQ0Qr5imLWCrKwn0HImc1Mx aAvmmc/cuAT7RMYws6v/gHeb0p4/y5792GJJlLZWOPgsdV5NaRes4Xe4632sLljD7wKv1Ta74H/h MxecN1Rc2TatYcP7zb+6WFfN/zMSHg1Ymuxjrzd+DuLw6Nlekggt1hvr7KK9tRIX85jjM6GTYhfv nzXH3jBdYc4koueBs66M+Xv9O9n5ML4urWssjGeMY3if3bzGSvk30BQ46OOaxJjLCpzPJAzXrOrD z5VFh58TIiwESIiCHNxxwPTy97qDei8YdpVdyYEv6EQcK8n+iTyE/Cn1eoe7HwN+F56oErVSGtJY Q1sR2ehaUHfjvJuv0tL7qAzEbBmfF2IHrVi8zp9N0pZtQZZHOXp/sLW4+hqKvm3iccaPwP3XgnKX n8/YtVeOsnenRG7VCBFlZ5fe3LOyANCVdGAIwDs7tTXGF4hIk15/iAfSgv2UkNFItSszOG3Ha7r0 GQBerhBkHOAzmQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig08DAE3DCCEEDAEA7553F6D46" X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on kill.porkrind.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig08DAE3DCCEEDAEA7553F6D46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2/1/12 10:11 AM, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 02/01/2012 07:04 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: >> Would you like to tell them? >=20 > David, it came to our attention when that your web site > is distributing binaries > for GNU Emacs without also distributing the source code. > Can you please fix this as soon as you can? My apologies. I *was* under the impressions that if I didn't change the source then it was good enough to say "it exists on GNU's site" and be done with it. I've corrected this--all current and future builds on emacsformacosx.com now and will have direct links to the source code (hosted on my servers). For the nightly builds I am hosting a mirror of the official Emacs Bazaar repository and there are instructions on how to grab a specific revision identified by a nightly build from this repo using "bzr". I hope this is sufficient. If not, please let me know. The list of builds is here if you wish to verify my changes yourself: http://emacsformacosx.com/builds -David --------------enig08DAE3DCCEEDAEA7553F6D46 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBTynuQKf81MBhyqGFAQhTMwQAvBR05pxsxm5nQmEiyACPNArG77H/OIvY u4oBXzt6gj/aNhzE1wSf0MINaT06fCERJqqsA0UsDiHHGAUNvvbAF3qXAtEBe8Sa Bq6vCWzplzoqrc7F+2S1h1EIy2G3jZzV7MmFSpCIa6ORBHngmqLU0PBJzJcHu7jr 5dsmcw3rpYg= =+rc0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig08DAE3DCCEEDAEA7553F6D46-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 01 21:39:08 2012 Received: (at 10656) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2012 02:39:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49767 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsmZn-0003I0-W5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:39:08 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:38405) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsmZk-0003HT-Sz for 10656@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:39:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ECD39E800F; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:38:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W5zss9KaTrRM; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:38:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E80E439E800C; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:38:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F29F727.5050605@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:38:31 -0800 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Caldwell Subject: Re: emacsformacosx.com & the GPL References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> <4F28773D.3000607@cs.ucla.edu> <4F29804B.6090900@cs.ucla.edu> <4F29EE3C.2060600@porkrind.org> In-Reply-To: <4F29EE3C.2060600@porkrind.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Thanks for fixing this so quickly; I appreciate it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 02 08:27:07 2012 Received: (at 10656) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2012 13:27:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50147 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rswgn-0004VF-P3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:27:06 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:49409 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rswgj-0004V5-96 for 10656@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:26:59 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RswgH-0002wf-FG; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:26:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:26:29 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: David Caldwell In-reply-to: <4F29EE3C.2060600@porkrind.org> (message from David Caldwell on Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:00:28 -0800) Subject: Re: emacsformacosx.com & the GPL References: <4F2786B9.6070608@cs.ucla.edu> <4F283350.1080500@cs.ucla.edu> <4F28773D.3000607@cs.ucla.edu> <4F29804B.6090900@cs.ucla.edu> <4F29EE3C.2060600@porkrind.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10656 Cc: 10656@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Thanks for correcting it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! 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