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GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Cc: help-emacs-windows <at> gnu.org, emacs-devel <at> gnu.org
Subject: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries (was: bug#10215:
	24.0.92; Can't contact nnimap (gnutls-cli not found))
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:44:03 -0600

On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:04:25 +0100 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote: 

LI> Uwe Siart <uwe.siart <at> tum.de> writes:
>> Thanks a lot for pointing me to that and sorry for my stupidness. I
>> wasn't aware that additional software is necessary because it hasn't
>> been necessary for Emacs 23.3 (precompiled for Windows). More even I
>> wasn't aware that GnuTLS is available for Windows.

LI> Hopefully Emacs 24 will be distributed (for Windows) with the GnuTLS
LI> libraries included, so that this will just work out of the box.
LI> Otherwise I think there will be many similar bug reports.  :-)

Christoph has been doing that, I think, so we can rely on his binaries.

Christoph, can you add a GnuTLS build step to your Emacs build for
Windows, so the latest GnuTLS version can be used on that platform?  We
had a long conversation about this and at least for now it seems to be
the best approach (and we agreed it would not be a task for the core
Emacs developers).  If you prefer, I can set up a BuildBot to produce
the GnuTLS DLLs for you.

Ted

Message #8 received at 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com>
To: 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: help-emacs-windows <at> gnu.org, emacs-devel <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries (was:
	bug#10215: 24.0.92; Can't contact nnimap (gnutls-cli not found))
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:15:24 +0100

2012/1/26 Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>:

> Christoph has been doing that, I think, so we can rely on his binaries.
>
> Christoph, can you add a GnuTLS build step to your Emacs build for
> Windows, so the latest GnuTLS version can be used on that platform?  We
> had a long conversation about this and at least for now it seems to be
> the best approach (and we agreed it would not be a task for the core
> Emacs developers).  If you prefer, I can set up a BuildBot to produce
> the GnuTLS DLLs for you.

Christoph's binaries are built against gnutls-3.0.9, but they do not
include the GnuTLS DLLs.

Note (again) that the issue is not who builds the GnuTLS DLLs, but
whether they should be included with official (or semi-official, like
the snapshots) releases.

    Juanma

Message #17 received at 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel <at> gnu.org, help-emacs-windows <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:05:12 +0100

Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Note (again) that the issue is not who builds the GnuTLS DLLs, but
> whether they should be included with official (or semi-official, like
> the snapshots) releases.

Does the new semi-official build include the GnuTLS DLLs?  It seems to
include a lot of the other libraries, but it doesn't mention GnuTLS...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #20 received at 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, Juanma Barranquero
 <lekktu <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, help-emacs-windows <at> gnu.org, emacs-devel <at> gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 12:31:36 -0800 (PST)

Why is this being crossposted to 3 different Emacs mailing lists. Please keep it only for the bug list.

Message #23 received at 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: help-emacs-windows <at> gnu.org, lekktu <at> gmail.com, emacs-devel <at> gnu.org,
 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 22:50:41 +0200

> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:05:12 +0100
> Cc: 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel <at> gnu.org, help-emacs-windows <at> gnu.org
> 
> Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Note (again) that the issue is not who builds the GnuTLS DLLs, but
> > whether they should be included with official (or semi-official, like
> > the snapshots) releases.
> 
> Does the new semi-official build include the GnuTLS DLLs?  It seems to
> include a lot of the other libraries, but it doesn't mention GnuTLS...

It doesn't include any DLLs except libXpm (which is needed for the
tool-bar icons).  It was built with GnuTLS, though, so if the end user
installs GnuTLS, Emacs will find it and use it.

(We never distributed Windows DLLs with Emacs, because that would
require us to host their sources, their dependencies, and the sources
of their dependencies on ftp.gnu.org, which IIRC raises all kinds of
questions and issues with their licenses.)

Message #26 received at 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, help-emacs-windows <at> gnu.org, emacs-devel <at> gnu.org,
 lekktu <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:56:21 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> It doesn't include any DLLs except libXpm (which is needed for the
> tool-bar icons).  It was built with GnuTLS, though, so if the end user
> installs GnuTLS, Emacs will find it and use it.

Yeah, but there are other less official builds (i.e., not official at
all), like those linked from here:

http://www.emacswiki.org/CategoryWThirtyTwo

I couldn't tell whether any of those included GnuTLS...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #29 received at 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: lekktu <at> gmail.com, 10612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel <at> gnu.org,
 help-emacs-windows <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10612: GnuTLS bundled with the windows Emacs binaries
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 18:28:26 +1100

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> It doesn't include any DLLs except libXpm (which is needed for the
>> tool-bar icons).  It was built with GnuTLS, though, so if the end user
>> installs GnuTLS, Emacs will find it and use it.
>
> Yeah, but there are other less official builds (i.e., not official at
> all), like those linked from here:
>
> http://www.emacswiki.org/CategoryWThirtyTwo
>
> I couldn't tell whether any of those included GnuTLS...

They do:

http://emacsbinw64.sourceforge.net/

    100% unmodified source code from git master and release version.
    Native 64-Bit binary for MS-Windows.
    Compiled with optimization.
    With JPEG, GIF, PNG, TIFF, SVG, XML2, and GnuTLS support.

So I'm closing this wishlist bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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