From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 14 13:19:23 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2012 18:19:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57523 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm8CI-0003xZ-OC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:19:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33033) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm8CG-0003xS-SG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:19:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm8BX-0000bV-Qq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:18:36 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:43935) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm8BX-0000bK-PN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:18:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53872) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm8BW-0005PO-Kv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:18:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm8BV-0000aR-Lg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:18:34 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:57399) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rm8BV-0000a4-Go for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:18:33 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id q0EIIVjq011051 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:18:31 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q0EIIUoY020305 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:18:31 GMT Received: from abhmt104.oracle.com (abhmt104.oracle.com [141.146.116.56]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q0EIIUDt023756 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:18:30 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.37.184) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:18:30 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.92; doc string of `echo-keystrokes' is missing important info Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:18:24 -0800 Message-ID: <27FCA2E010F748D6AAD24265A6A51295@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: AczS6Odbyd2VymWDSHaUMtqd6bjn8g== X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4F11C6F8.00A1,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) The doc string MUST, like the manuals, say what a zero value means. Otherwise users will wonder why echoing doesn't happen in some context or how to turn off echoing. This is what the Elisp manual says: "If the value is zero, then command input is not echoed." And this is what the Emacs manual says: "... or zero, meaning don't echo at all." In GNU Emacs 24.0.92.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-01-05 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include --ldflags -LD:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/lib' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 26 11:10:24 2012 Received: (at 10503) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2012 16:10:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45712 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqRu3-000665-Qk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:10:24 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:42445 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqRu1-00065w-TN for 10503@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:10:22 -0500 Received: from bb121-7-229-168.singnet.com.sg ([121.7.229.168]:35700 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqRtU-0003ct-Cl; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:09:49 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#10503: 24.0.92; doc string of `echo-keystrokes' is missing important info References: <27FCA2E010F748D6AAD24265A6A51295@us.oracle.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:09:38 +0800 In-Reply-To: <27FCA2E010F748D6AAD24265A6A51295@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:18:24 -0800") Message-ID: <87pqe6o37h.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10503 Cc: 10503@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) "Drew Adams" writes: > The doc string MUST, like the manuals, say what a zero value means. > Otherwise users will wonder why echoing doesn't happen in some context > or how to turn off echoing. Fixed, thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 26 11:10:31 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2012 16:10:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45715 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqRuA-00066S-DE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:10:31 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:42446 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqRu9-00066K-Au for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:10:29 -0500 Received: from bb121-7-229-168.singnet.com.sg ([121.7.229.168]:35701 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RqRtc-0003dG-3H for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:09:56 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 10503 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:09:51 +0800 Message-ID: <87liouo374.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) close 10503 thanks From unknown Mon Aug 11 18:18:45 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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