From unknown Sat Sep 20 21:48:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10431: a .trs file left behind for each test Resent-From: Jim Meyering Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-automake@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10431 X-GNU-PR-Package: automake X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 10431@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-automake@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.132569002920921 (code B ref -1); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:14:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2012 15:13:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiSXE-0005RN-Rn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:13:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiSXD-0005RG-5g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:13:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiSTt-0002qW-BW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:10:22 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:33354) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiSTt-0002qS-A0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:10:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48593) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiSTo-0004RY-LY for bug-automake@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:10:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiSTf-0002mc-6Y for bug-automake@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:10:16 -0500 Received: from mx.meyering.net ([88.168.87.75]:52439) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiSTe-0002lQ-Td for bug-automake@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:10:07 -0500 Received: from rho.meyering.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister) with ESMTP id CABB1605DE for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:10:05 +0100 (CET) From: Jim Meyering Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:10:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87hb0bfqr6.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Lines: 8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) Hi Stefano, [using latest automake from git.master] For example, in grep and coreutils, after I run "make check", I find that every test has a corresponding .trs file alongside the usual .log file. Those are indeed removed via "make clean", but shouldn't they be removed also upon normal completion of each test? From unknown Sat Sep 20 21:48:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10431: a .trs file left behind for each test Resent-From: Stefano Lattarini Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-automake@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10431 X-GNU-PR-Package: automake X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jim Meyering Cc: 10431@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10431-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10431.132569660530811 (code B ref 10431); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 10431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2012 17:03:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiUFJ-00080u-G5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:03:25 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com ([209.85.212.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiUFH-00080n-MA for 10431@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:03:24 -0500 Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6so11185189wib.3 for <10431@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:59:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gWlo22PH0gX9yJ7/cCC6kh+ZejkJj0bZwN1PJbJ79Ak=; b=JE0o02W9eC91jXFin8EwJrJUEMeLuM7Heh1syeNeNf0ffmo7yLp6v03fdgKYP1unYU JC1H2U3jVmtaC702MWrM2ISKYA+xCXN5AwjswsFLud0dvuW/NCqQ4Xor0CgHOy08mFEb aMCfxpQAdJWxLf8+LJzo8QGoTKek0NOCYUToY= Received: by 10.181.13.179 with SMTP id ez19mr124273160wid.11.1325696397842; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:59:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.8.100.224] (host224-100-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [87.8.100.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f36sm17061579wbo.10.2012.01.04.08.59.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:59:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F048585.6030906@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:59:49 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87hb0bfqr6.fsf@rho.meyering.net> In-Reply-To: <87hb0bfqr6.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) tags 10431 notabug close 10431 thanks On 01/04/2012 04:10 PM, Jim Meyering wrote: > Hi Stefano, > Hi Jim, thanks for the report. > [using latest automake from git.master] > For example, in grep and coreutils, after I run "make check", I find > that every test has a corresponding .trs file alongside the usual .log file. > Yep, that's by design; the new automake-generated testsuite harness needs to register, for each test script that it runs, more information than the simple "final result" of the script. It would have been really awkward and fragile to do so "in band", i.e., with special directives embedded into the `.log' files[1]; so we register this new information safely out-of-band, into these `.trs' files (where "trs" stands for "Test ReSults"). This new interface should be clearly documented in 'master' version of the automake manual; if something is missing or unclear, that's a bug, and feel free to report it! [1] I had taken the in-bad approach initially: but it proved brittle and bug-prone (as predicted by Ralf); hence the introduction of the `.trs' files: > Those are indeed removed via "make clean", but shouldn't they be removed > also upon normal completion of each test? > Oh no! The testsuite harness will need them to perform various tasks; e.g., the creation of the final `test-suite.log' file, the display of the testsuite summary, the decision of which files to re-run upon "make recheck", etc. HTH, Stefano P.S. Let me reiterate that, while I greatly appreciate your continual use and testing the bleeding-edge automake versions with real-world packages, the code from `master' it is IMO *not* stable or mature enough for use in production code. So I'd advise against its use in the upcoming coreutils release (but you could use the version from maint, which has a couple of bug fixes w.r.t. 1.11.2, and it's IMHO very stable). From unknown Sat Sep 20 21:48:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10431: a .trs file left behind for each test Resent-From: Peter Rosin Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-automake@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10431 X-GNU-PR-Package: automake X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefano Lattarini Cc: 10431@debbugs.gnu.org, Jim Meyering Received: via spool by 10431-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10431.132569752232136 (code B ref 10431); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 10431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2012 17:18:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiUU5-0008MF-PC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:18:42 -0500 Received: from mail.lysator.liu.se ([130.236.254.3]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiUU3-0008M6-4W for 10431@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:18:40 -0500 Received: from mail.lysator.liu.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88414000C; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:15:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.150] (h57n3fls301o1095.telia.com [81.230.178.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02B194000B; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:15:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F048923.6050808@lysator.liu.se> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:15:15 +0100 From: Peter Rosin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87hb0bfqr6.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <4F048585.6030906@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F048585.6030906@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Stefano Lattarini skrev 2012-01-04 17:59: > P.S. Let me reiterate that, while I greatly appreciate your continual use > and testing the bleeding-edge automake versions with real-world packages, > the code from `master' it is IMO *not* stable or mature enough for use in > production code. So I'd advise against its use in the upcoming coreutils > release (but you could use the version from maint, which has a couple of > bug fixes w.r.t. 1.11.2, and it's IMHO very stable). But maint has an outdated version of lib/compile and lib/ar-lib isn't provided in any shape or form. So, from my point of view, please don't use maint for production either. Cheers, Peter From unknown Sat Sep 20 21:48:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10431: a .trs file left behind for each test Resent-From: Jim Meyering Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-automake@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10431 X-GNU-PR-Package: automake X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefano Lattarini Cc: 10431@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10431-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10431.132569791232696 (code B ref 10431); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 10431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2012 17:25:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiUaO-0008VI-1C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:25:12 -0500 Received: from mx.meyering.net ([88.168.87.75]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiUaL-0008VB-K5 for 10431@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:25:10 -0500 Received: from rho.meyering.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister) with ESMTP id 3746B600C1; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:21:43 +0100 (CET) From: Jim Meyering In-Reply-To: <4F048585.6030906@gmail.com> (Stefano Lattarini's message of "Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:59:49 +0100") References: <87hb0bfqr6.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <4F048585.6030906@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:21:43 +0100 Message-ID: <87ty4be63c.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Lines: 27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Stefano Lattarini wrote: ... >> [using latest automake from git.master] >> For example, in grep and coreutils, after I run "make check", I find >> that every test has a corresponding .trs file alongside the usual .log file. >> > Yep, that's by design; the new automake-generated testsuite harness needs > to register, for each test script that it runs, more information than the ... > > Indeed, I missed those patches and should have looked at the source before reporting. Sorry my full schedule led me to take that short-cut. (you're partly to thank/blame for posting those coreutils snapshot results :-) > P.S. Let me reiterate that, while I greatly appreciate your continual use > and testing the bleeding-edge automake versions with real-world packages, > the code from `master' it is IMO *not* stable or mature enough for use in > production code. So I'd advise against its use in the upcoming coreutils > release (but you could use the version from maint, which has a couple of > bug fixes w.r.t. 1.11.2, and it's IMHO very stable). I understand your sentiment and appreciate the concern, but so far all of the evidence I've seen (continual monitoring of automake commits and regular testing both of automake and of packages built using the very latest automake) suggests that you are wrong. From unknown Sat Sep 20 21:48:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10431: a .trs file left behind for each test Resent-From: Stefano Lattarini Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-automake@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10431 X-GNU-PR-Package: automake X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter Rosin Cc: 10431@debbugs.gnu.org, Jim Meyering Received: via spool by 10431-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10431.13257010635028 (code B ref 10431); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:18:01 +0000 Received: (at 10431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2012 18:17:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVPC-0001J1-PZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:17:43 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVPA-0001Iu-AP for 10431@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:17:41 -0500 Received: by wgbdq10 with SMTP id dq10so23831513wgb.15 for <10431@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:14:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o3ly5ilPcye4GHDYa/3YMVS2dLzVTboS69Mbu3+IiHw=; b=hvrFVGI8nLAvJYbmyqlKXattI4J6+Xy/PO1ogq4Do7Cf9e9HhiksruUxiRk8lRrGYA TaM7eyXT6LUmcs+bE5UMLWJcl0xYE/y3XAXFr/VdrCDz8SpbPydGFX2bI9UsrZvQoXPL jVFpj+DBovt+u/ss3iWC0hOhLLszPkhROnVro= Received: by 10.227.207.67 with SMTP id fx3mr56197407wbb.0.1325700854060; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.8.100.224] (host224-100-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [87.8.100.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f36sm17355278wbo.10.2012.01.04.10.14.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:14:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0496F3.5030108@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:14:11 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87hb0bfqr6.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <4F048585.6030906@gmail.com> <4F048923.6050808@lysator.liu.se> In-Reply-To: <4F048923.6050808@lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) On 01/04/2012 06:15 PM, Peter Rosin wrote: > Stefano Lattarini skrev 2012-01-04 17:59: >> P.S. Let me reiterate that, while I greatly appreciate your continual use >> and testing the bleeding-edge automake versions with real-world packages, >> the code from `master' it is IMO *not* stable or mature enough for use in >> production code. So I'd advise against its use in the upcoming coreutils >> release (but you could use the version from maint, which has a couple of >> bug fixes w.r.t. 1.11.2, and it's IMHO very stable). > > But maint has an outdated version of lib/compile and lib/ar-lib [SNIP] > My bad! I should have recommended `branch-1.11', not `maint'. Consider my advise updated accordingly :-) Regards, Stefano From unknown Sat Sep 20 21:48:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10431: a .trs file left behind for each test Resent-From: Stefano Lattarini Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-automake@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10431 X-GNU-PR-Package: automake X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jim Meyering Cc: 10431@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10431-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10431.13257014735706 (code B ref 10431); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 10431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2012 18:24:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVVp-0001Tz-E6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:24:33 -0500 Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiVVn-0001Ts-Uv for 10431@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:24:32 -0500 Received: by werb14 with SMTP id b14so9555171wer.3 for <10431@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:21:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0Z9nbpA4xSpnHQ6CTvR6AsthbNvbwmrGlEOSzfzexm4=; b=dZZzESFKunP3fW4tRWUELD3xLjm6pDMFb17XFckRFYLQ5ilqcwBI8tqNTAkrbvM1v0 5LAjKhNWoKbuKJzNxxbqA89xpi4QBZYxhGsGCQJGUM9mE7U+fAves0SPojpSXzvNzz6P U/EvwZGVhxdyrdpDzsimbJg85BSl8v4RHsCVU= Received: by 10.216.136.232 with SMTP id w82mr31767787wei.46.1325701265728; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.8.100.224] (host224-100-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [87.8.100.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fq5sm38999562wbb.17.2012.01.04.10.21.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:21:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F04988F.20403@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:21:03 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87hb0bfqr6.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <4F048585.6030906@gmail.com> <87ty4be63c.fsf@rho.meyering.net> In-Reply-To: <87ty4be63c.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) On 01/04/2012 06:21 PM, Jim Meyering wrote: > Stefano Lattarini wrote: >> >> P.S. Let me reiterate that, while I greatly appreciate your continual use >> and testing the bleeding-edge automake versions with real-world packages, >> the code from `master' it is IMO *not* stable or mature enough for use in >> production code. So I'd advise against its use in the upcoming coreutils >> release (but you could use the version from maint, which has a couple of >> bug fixes w.r.t. 1.11.2, and it's IMHO very stable). > > I understand your sentiment and appreciate the concern, but so far all > of the evidence I've seen (continual monitoring of automake commits and > regular testing both of automake and of packages built using the very > latest automake) suggests that you are wrong. > When, then for once I'm happy to be wrong :-) Regards, and thanks, Stefano From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 05 05:03:05 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2012 10:03:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RikA4-0003rc-O5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:03:04 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RikA2-0003rV-Sg for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 05:03:03 -0500 Received: by wgbdq10 with SMTP id dq10so345515wgb.15 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:59:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9UGKtfXQ3BQWsCTa7Ik7JI7RwCUdJ4jh8gIXKgSR3RA=; b=gyzlwjLJCJmDlpClZwMm1PXharSpS8Y0mlWxknW6IRU2yoheV2WxBzRNOHa1+dVVvj 1l0MvvqvtkQScRa2pOhx9++AhKOem7tY7Mne6VUHAXHjKkT83kPQWMVao/c5J0rIi6a5 2Vq7hnlUNBCptxlAj3p9iDXqPxEmvdym48t/8= Received: by 10.227.60.4 with SMTP id n4mr1235915wbh.9.1325757572938; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:59:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [79.21.97.111] (host111-97-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it. [79.21.97.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fi11sm63623059wbb.9.2012.01.05.01.59.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:59:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F057482.1040609@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 10:59:30 +0100 From: Stefano Lattarini MIME-Version: 1.0 To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) tags 10431 notabug close 10431 thanks