From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Jari Aalto Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: mwolson@gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.132505936216158 (code B ref -1); Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:03:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Dec 2011 08:02:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RfoTB-0004CY-Tv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:02:42 -0500 Received: from emh02.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.108]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RfoT9-0004CQ-JA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:02:40 -0500 Received: from saunalahti-vams (vs3-10.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.94]) by emh02-2.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CBAEEFA6C; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:59:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from emh01.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.107]) by vs3-10.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.94]) with SMTP (gateway) id A0072198246; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:59:55 +0200 Received: from cante.cante.net (a91-155-176-245.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.176.245]) by emh01.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B4C403E; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:59:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from jaalto by cante.cante.net with local (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1RfoQS-0001Gv-5Q; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:59:52 +0200 From: Jari Aalto Mail-Copies-To: poster Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:59:49 +0200 Message-ID: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jari.aalto@cante.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cante.cante.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Antivirus: VAMS X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Package: emacs Version: 23.3 Severity: wishlist I come accross functions that might be useful to be included in Emacs: http://mwolson.org/static/dist/elisp/search-prop.el search-property search-property-forward (interactive) search-property-backward (interactive) Jari -- System Information Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT Prefers testing APT policy: (500, testing) (990, unstable) Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux cante 3.1.0-1-686-pae #1 SMP Sun Dec 11 20:40:16 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 -- Versions of packages `emacs depends on'. Depends: emacs23 23.3+1-4 GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting emacs23-lucid 23.3+1-4 GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting emacs23-nox 23.3+1-4 GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Jari Aalto Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, mwolson@gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.133426131413043 (code B ref 10387); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:09:01 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2012 20:08:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54901 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQJl-0003OK-O6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:08:33 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45235) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQJj-0003OD-Qv for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:08:32 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIQIR-0000ez-3r; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:07:11 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> X-Now-Playing: His Name Is Alive's _The Eclipse_: "The Prescriptions" Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:07:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> (Jari Aalto's message of "Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:59:49 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1SIQIR-0000ez-3r X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1334866031.22335@GBgtMXrJNZNXpmFnhOmcmw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Jari Aalto writes: > I come accross functions that might be useful to be included in Emacs: > > http://mwolson.org/static/dist/elisp/search-prop.el > > search-property > search-property-forward (interactive) > search-property-backward (interactive) I like this. Gnus uses text properties extensively, and searching for them using the standard functions (`next-property-change' and friends) is a hassle. `search-property' looks like what I have needed in the past. Would it be OK to install this in Emacs? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, mwolson@gnu.org, Jari Aalto Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.133426779425794 (code B ref 10387); Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2012 21:56:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54996 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIS0I-0006hz-MR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:56:34 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:46060) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIS0G-0006hs-Au for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:56:32 -0400 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3CLtGHl030918; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:55:16 -0400 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8DF8EB4066; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:55:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:55:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:07:10 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4190=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4190> : streams <746357> : uri <1098536> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) > I like this. Gnus uses text properties extensively, and searching for > them using the standard functions (`next-property-change' and friends) > is a hassle. > `search-property' looks like what I have needed in the past. text-property-any (and t-p-not-all) seems to do the same, except it only searches forward. Is there some other difference I'm missing (other than the `cycle' which doesn't seem tremendously useful)? Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Michael Olson Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, Jari Aalto Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.133428785632487 (code B ref 10387); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:31:01 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Apr 2012 03:30:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55423 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIXDr-0008Rv-7O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:30:56 -0400 Received: from mail-bk0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]:49402) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIXDo-0008Rn-V5 for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:30:54 -0400 Received: by bkuw5 with SMTP id w5so1971525bku.3 for <10387@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:29:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=APobgTfR5EqK3k7KkcbcrozT8o7H4qVB2x/91hWC9G0=; b=Vy+EL2UOINLcoad/4lczLY5dqnoZ1cI4z5/0G51WsOUgWsCdqUSKY92XdqhhA8JvnR fafkH0YkDWygzNoRucK9W98m/FR7fdo4ATwoOuwqSzTLANT6Dhjg22oZ7/YS85V1aYq/ a4hFJLRCojOKaCPUA7fEce8vT7D1VWC2jgwSUV+iUbmJ+vfuxSYXJvMbHh9h5YGp/zFY eDsD8aDzKaFhc1QCUf/ZbNFfrKAgs78LDpGbXIniAVl6xYwHhaGCc6ncLod+P6pAe0ZO 1KhWNN2glootgbN/G9bZyuUryh+9lEsI32mU5TxLxyJ/o8FqB4OgD2AHvXJh0x37mhyB sSQg== Received: by 10.205.139.67 with SMTP id iv3mr39670bkc.8.1334287774299; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:29:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.163.145 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:29:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [99.116.250.80] In-Reply-To: References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> From: Michael Olson Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:29:13 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tGad2dh_wHD0U7iyvA-4B24AvTk Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0d07cd0b74904bd871400 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmnA9M67+Z2pZJWqjKSaKD5NPhFdmI25L7MsF7KKEaA1WmsB205ztghjFaqHZahqHp1DPr9 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) --000e0ce0d07cd0b74904bd871400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I like this. Gnus uses text properties extensively, and searching for > > them using the standard functions (`next-property-change' and friends) > > is a hassle. > > `search-property' looks like what I have needed in the past. > > text-property-any (and t-p-not-all) seems to do the same, except it only > searches forward. Is there some other difference I'm missing (other > than the `cycle' which doesn't seem tremendously useful)? > Differences compared to text-property-any: - Includes helper functions 'search-property-forward' and 'search-property-backward' which move point and closely match the interface and behavior of 'search-forward' and 'search-backward'. (Except for 'count'.) The interactive use is nice: when you need it, you really need it. - I don't remember what the original use case was for 'cycle'. Possibly to emulate the effect of hitting TAB in Emacs Muse to go to the next URL (behavior that I would remove if I was starting again from scratch). - In the initial release of the file to gnu.emacs.sources, I wrote this blurb. Maybe there was a related shortcoming in text-property-any at the time. Blurb: "It should work perfectly well both in the case where consecutive characters have the property, and in that where a single character has the property." -- Michael Olson | http://mwolson.org/ --000e0ce0d07cd0b74904bd871400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Stefan Monnier = <monnier@i= ro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> I like this. =C2=A0Gnus uses text properties extensi= vely, and searching for
> them using the standard functions (`next-property-change' and frie= nds)
> is a hassle.
> `search-property' looks like what I have needed in the past.

text-property-any (and t-p-not-all) seems to do the same, except it o= nly
searches forward. =C2=A0Is there some other difference I'm missing (oth= er
than the `cycle' which doesn't seem tremendously useful)?
<= div>
Differences compared to text-property-any:

=C2=A0- Includes helper functions 'search-property-forward' an= d 'search-property-backward' which move point and closely match the= interface and behavior of 'search-forward' and 'search-backwar= d'. =C2=A0(Except for 'count'.) =C2=A0The interactive use is ni= ce: when you need it, you really need it.

=C2=A0- I don't remember what the original use case= was for 'cycle'. =C2=A0Possibly to emulate the effect of hitting T= AB in Emacs Muse to go to the next URL (behavior that I would remove if I w= as starting again from scratch).

=C2=A0- In the initial release of the file to gnu.emacs= .sources, I wrote this blurb. =C2=A0Maybe there was a related shortcoming i= n text-property-any at the time.

Blurb: = "It should work perfectly well both in the case where consecutive
characters have the property, and in that where a single character has=
the property."

--
Michael Olson=C2= =A0 |=C2=A0 http://mwolso= n.org/
--000e0ce0d07cd0b74904bd871400-- From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Michael Olson Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, Jari Aalto Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.133432230428505 (code B ref 10387); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Apr 2012 13:05:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56334 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIgBU-0007Ph-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:05:04 -0400 Received: from ironport-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.143.162]:37364) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIgBR-0007Pa-W7 for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:05:02 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYIACxOgk9sr+di/2dsb2JhbABDuCMDgQyBCIIJAQEEAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kiBwFtjKLYYR5BKRFgV2DAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,391,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="174055477" Received: from 108-175-231-98.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.175.231.98]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 13 Apr 2012 09:03:42 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A316F5809E; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:03:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:03:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Michael Olson's message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:29:13 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) >> > I like this. Gnus uses text properties extensively, and searching for >> > them using the standard functions (`next-property-change' and friends) >> > is a hassle. >> > `search-property' looks like what I have needed in the past. >> text-property-any (and t-p-not-all) seems to do the same, except it only >> searches forward. Is there some other difference I'm missing (other >> than the `cycle' which doesn't seem tremendously useful)? > Differences compared to text-property-any: > - Includes helper functions 'search-property-forward' and > 'search-property-backward' which move point and closely match the > interface and behavior of 'search-forward' and 'search-backward'. > (Except for 'count'.) The interactive use is nice: when you need > it, you really need it. I can't remember needing such a thing, but maybe it's just because it didn't occur to me. > - I don't remember what the original use case was for 'cycle'. Possibly > to emulate the effect of hitting TAB in Emacs Muse to go to the next URL > (behavior that I would remove if I was starting again from scratch). I guess the cycle makes sense for interactive use, tho it can be implemented on top of a non-cycling primitive. So all in all, I think the main points are: - search backward. - UI. - names with "search" and with direction. I actually like it, so I suggest to provide new functions (search-text-property-forward START END PROP VALUE &optional OBJECT NOT-EQ) and search-text-property-backward, implemented in C and then reimplement text-property-any and text-property-not-all in Elisp on top of them (and make them obsolete). Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> In-Reply-To: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 17:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.13852281758017 (code B ref 10387); Sat, 23 Nov 2013 17:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2013 17:36:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40275 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkH7u-00025E-P0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:36:15 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:50238) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkH7r-00024q-Ru for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:36:12 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rANHa4rm028057 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <10387@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 17:36:05 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rANHa3CL008870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <10387@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 17:36:04 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rANHa3Z0029343 for <10387@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 17:36:03 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 09:35:59 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) I was not aware of this bug thread - just came across it when scanning the list of patch bugs that Glenn pointed to in emacs-devel today. I only skimmed this thread, so ignore if my input is not relevant. I have a library, with almost the same name, isearch-prop.el, which lets you isearch zones of text having certain text or overlay properties. If useful and appropriate, you can add this code or similar to Emacs. The code is here: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/download/isearch-prop.el. As I wrote in a mail to Juri a while back: By default, the zones not being searched are dimmed a bit. `C-M-~' toggles, to search the zones that do *not* have the particular property values. For example, with a command such as `isearchp-imenu-command', which normally searches Emacs-Lisp command definitions (after putting a property on them), `C-M-~' makes it search all text other than command definitions. From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Drew Adams Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138525021910655 (code B ref 10387); Sat, 23 Nov 2013 23:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2013 23:43:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40761 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkMrT-0002ln-5F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 18:43:39 -0500 Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.218.105]:44961 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkMrQ-0002ld-CY for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 18:43:37 -0500 Received: from localhost.jurta.org (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7C6258B9E936; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 15:43:34 -0800 (PST) From: Juri Linkov Organization: JURTA References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:34:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 23 Nov 2013 09:35:59 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > I was not aware of this bug thread - just came across it when scanning > the list of patch bugs that Glenn pointed to in emacs-devel today. > > I only skimmed this thread, so ignore if my input is not relevant. I'm not sure whether this feature request was about low-level search functions or more user-oriented isearch commands. Both can be easily implemented by using `isearch-filter-predicate'. But it seems the request has nothing to do with the text search and asks for a better replacement of `next-property-change'. Indeed, such functions could provide a similar interface (function names and argument names) like in isearch functions and maybe even reuse some code e.g. wrapping, direction, etc. One idea is to define `isearch-search-fun-function' in such a way that it will interpret its argument `string' as the name of the property to search. Then new isearch sub-mode will allow searching by property names. > By default, the zones not being searched are dimmed a bit. > `C-M-~' toggles, to search the zones that do *not* have the > particular property values. For example, with a command such as > `isearchp-imenu-command', which normally searches Emacs-Lisp > command definitions (after putting a property on them), > `C-M-~' makes it search all text other than command definitions. `C-M-~' is a strange choice and it can't be typed on tty. There is a special sub-map for filter commands on `M-s f'. From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 00:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Juri Linkov Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138525124712319 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 00:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 00:00:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40787 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkN83-0003Cd-5r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 19:00:47 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:22612) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkN81-0003CM-9s for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 19:00:45 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAO00cf4024257 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 00:00:39 GMT Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAO00bIv004290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 00:00:37 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAO00bOg004285; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 00:00:37 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:00:31 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> In-Reply-To: <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) > > By default, the zones not being searched are dimmed a bit. > > `C-M-~' toggles, to search the zones that do *not* have the > > particular property values. For example, with a command such as > > `isearchp-imenu-command', which normally searches Emacs-Lisp > > command definitions (after putting a property on them), > > `C-M-~' makes it search all text other than command definitions. >=20 > `C-M-~' is a strange choice and it can't be typed on tty. FWIW - It can be typed on a tty, as `ESC-C-~'. Admittedly, not as handy as `C-M-~'. But no worse than `M-s f ~' etc. `~' is mnemonic for complementing/negation in some logic notations. I use `C-M-~' because that is also the key I use for this in Icicles search (from which this property-searching was taken). In Icicles, `C-~' is used to complement the current set of completion candidates, and `M-~' is used to toggle whether to abbreviate your home directory using `~'. And of course `~' self-inserts. > There is a special sub-map for filter commands on `M-s f'. I have no objection, if you would like to put this on `M-s f ~', for example. From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Drew Adams Cc: Juri Linkov , 10387@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138525489718142 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 01:01:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40875 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkO4u-0004iY-BQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 20:01:36 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:44604) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkO4s-0004iE-2o for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 20:01:35 -0500 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dRtP74MGhz3hhnH; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 02:01:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dRtP73662zbbcd; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 02:01:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UXOpvjbxAI4n; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 02:01:29 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: YRGtCBRMlipUqyVYoekISrl1V8Ic0koUzojH8BwTrKg= Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-39-109.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.39.109]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 02:01:29 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 528B22C3DCB; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 02:01:29 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Yow: Yow! Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 02:01:29 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:00:31 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > It can be typed on a tty, as `ESC-C-~'. C-~ is the same as C-^. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Andreas Schwab Cc: Juri Linkov , 10387@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138525529218801 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:09:01 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 01:08:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkOBH-0004tA-K4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 20:08:12 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:23451) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkOBF-0004sv-1G for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 20:08:09 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAO182OP023025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:08:03 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAO181Fk011674 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:08:02 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAO18113018850; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:08:01 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 17:07:55 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> In-Reply-To: <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) > > It can be typed on a tty, as `ESC-C-~'. >=20 > C-~ is the same as C-^. Not for me it's not. emacs -Q ; or emacs -Q -nw ;; Visit a file foo.el. ;; C-h k for each. Both keys are undefined. M-x global-set-key C-~ forward-char C-h w forward-char ; It is not shown as being on C-^ C-h k C-^ ; It is undefined C-h k C-~ ; It is bound to `forward-char' From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 11:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Drew Adams Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138529299618258 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 11:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 11:36:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41708 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkXzP-0004kP-N3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 06:36:36 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:40337) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkXzM-0004kF-Fy for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 06:36:33 -0500 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dS8Tp3H3Sz3hhcX; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:36:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dS8Tp15J7zbbcP; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:36:30 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nq905VC0sw3H; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:36:28 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: ufzvdcRECpA1LUIatn6oabU1V/EHndJtsUdF/hkOo44= Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-230-203.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.230.203]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:36:28 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 971302C411C; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:36:28 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> X-Yow: I'm ZIPPY the PINHEAD and I'm totally committed to the festive mode. Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:36:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 23 Nov 2013 17:07:55 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87vbzi3ubn.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > M-x global-set-key C-~ forward-char That binds C-^ in -nw. C-~ isn't a character. (characterp ?\C-~) => nil Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Drew Adams Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138531142020071 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 16:43:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42334 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vkcma-0005Df-B6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 11:43:40 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:30331) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkcmY-0005DP-R0 for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 11:43:39 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+K4R/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+K4R/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="40285287" Received: from 206-248-174-17.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.174.17]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 24 Nov 2013 11:43:33 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 03E9A60021; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 11:43:33 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 11:43:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 23 Nov 2013 17:07:55 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > emacs -Q ; or emacs -Q -nw The difference is important here. Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138531190520829 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 16:51:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkcuP-0005Pt-6N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 11:51:45 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:30507) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkcuM-0005Pf-PE for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 11:51:43 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAOGpZZm001554 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:51:36 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAOGpXRr006336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:51:35 GMT Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAOGpXmq013786; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:51:33 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <98707a01-802f-4ba7-83f5-592a1fc5af8c@default> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 08:51:26 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> <87vbzi3ubn.fsf@igel.home> In-Reply-To: <87vbzi3ubn.fsf@igel.home> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > > M-x global-set-key C-~ forward-char >=20 > That binds C-^ in -nw. C-~ isn't a character. > (characterp ?\C-~) =3D> nil What's your point? The claim (from Juri) was that `C-M-~' "cannot be typed on tty". But it can be typed. And it can be bound to a command. And typing it invokes the command. And Emacs recognizes it as a binding of that command. And Emacs does not recognize, just because of that binding, that `C-M-^ is bound to that command (or is bound at all). What does this behavior, and the usefulness of this binding, have to do with the fact that `C-~' or `C-M-~' is not a character? Or with the fact that `C-^' is a character and `C-~' is not? In `emacs -Q -nw', `C-down' is bound to `forward-paragraph'. Yet (characterp [(control down)]) is nil. So what? Did those who defined that default binding for Emacs out of the box make a mistake? Was that a no-no? From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138531206421097 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 16:54:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vkcwx-0005UB-Ng for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 11:54:24 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:30745) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vkcwu-0005Ty-LZ for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 11:54:21 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAOGsEDr003218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:54:15 GMT Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAOGsDgr014485 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:54:13 GMT Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAOGsDqr014481; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 16:54:13 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 08:54:06 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > > emacs -Q ; or emacs -Q -nw >=20 > The difference is important here. What difference? And what importance? Use either one in the recipe. Same effect wrt using `C-M-~', AFAICT. `emacs -Q -nw' has the behavior I reported, as does `emacs -Q'. (At least on MS Windows.) From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Drew Adams Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138531265122053 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 17:04:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42367 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vkd6R-0005jd-1x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:04:11 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:55420) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vkd6N-0005j4-DR for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:04:08 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MWS005001ZPNU00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:04:00 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MWS005FP22NNJ10@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:04:00 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:04:10 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <98707a01-802f-4ba7-83f5-592a1fc5af8c@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83wqjxbuk5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> <87vbzi3ubn.fsf@igel.home> <98707a01-802f-4ba7-83f5-592a1fc5af8c@default> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 08:51:26 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > M-x global-set-key C-~ forward-char > > > > That binds C-^ in -nw. C-~ isn't a character. > > (characterp ?\C-~) => nil > > What's your point? > > The claim (from Juri) was that `C-M-~' "cannot be typed on tty". > > But it can be typed. No, it can't, not on a Unix text terminal. > And it can be bound to a command. And typing it invokes the > command. And Emacs recognizes it as a binding of that command. I'm guessing that you tried this on MS-Windows, where C-M-~ and C-~ are indeed usable in a -nw session. But not on a Unix TTY. (The MS-Windows build of Emacs uses Windows-specific method for reading the keyboard that is very different from character input on a Posix TTY, and which supports almost every key combination that the GUI session does.) > In `emacs -Q -nw', `C-down' is bound to `forward-paragraph'. > Yet (characterp [(control down)]) is nil. So what? Did those > who defined that default binding for Emacs out of the box make > a mistake? Was that a no-no? I think Unix TTYs can only read those combinations that are characters. MS-Windows is different. From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Drew Adams Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138531277022256 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:07:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 17:06:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42371 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vkd8L-0005mt-KF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:06:09 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:54353) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vkd8I-0005mK-SX for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:06:07 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MWS0030023Z6Q00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:06:00 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MWS003XR2603X30@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:06:00 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:06:11 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83vbzhbugs.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 08:54:06 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab > > > > emacs -Q ; or emacs -Q -nw > > > > The difference is important here. > > What difference? And what importance? > > Use either one in the recipe. > Same effect wrt using `C-M-~', AFAICT. > > `emacs -Q -nw' has the behavior I reported, as does > `emacs -Q'. (At least on MS Windows.) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Actually, _only_ on MS-Windoes. (Well, on MS-DOS as well, but who cares?) From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Drew Adams Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138531343423267 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 17:17:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42383 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkdJ3-00063D-Vb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:17:14 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:34379) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkdJ2-000635-HM for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:17:13 -0500 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dSJ2v0qBxz4KK9V; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:17:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dSJ2t6wJyzbbgf; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:17:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9bA8McYeXG5d; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:17:09 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: l80mSqujC5GALqy/Wg2tR8By53ZELPUD94zyS2gDyvo= Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-230-203.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.230.203]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:17:09 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A28C2C4430; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:17:09 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> <87vbzi3ubn.fsf@igel.home> <98707a01-802f-4ba7-83f5-592a1fc5af8c@default> X-Yow: Will this never-ending series of PLEASURABLE EVENTS never cease? Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:17:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <98707a01-802f-4ba7-83f5-592a1fc5af8c@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 24 Nov 2013 08:51:26 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87mwkt4t4a.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > Yet (characterp [(control down)]) is nil. Key sequences are never characters. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138531539626469 (code B ref 10387); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:50:02 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2013 17:49:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42427 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vkdoi-0006sq-5u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:49:56 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:36628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vkdof-0006sc-9J for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:49:53 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAOHnjfE003752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:49:46 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAOHniZ8020101 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:49:45 GMT Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAOHnint026855; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:49:44 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4d7fd2ab-f511-4092-99e4-d5c848210f99@default> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 09:49:37 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <<87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net>> <<4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default>> <<87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org>> <> <<878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home>> <<7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default>> <> <> <<83vbzhbugs.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<83vbzhbugs.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > > > > emacs -Q ; or emacs -Q -nw > > > > > > The difference is important here. > > > > What difference? And what importance? > > Use either one in the recipe. > > Same effect wrt using `C-M-~', AFAICT. > > `emacs -Q -nw' has the behavior I reported, as does > > `emacs -Q'. (At least on MS Windows.) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Actually, _only_ on MS-Windoes. (Well, on MS-DOS as well, > but who cares?) Got it. Thx. Perhaps I will change that default binding, with that knowledge. At any rate, I was explaining why I chose that key sequence. Which key to use is not really the point of my post about `isearch-prop.el'. The toggle key to use is only a bike shed. Paint it any color you like. From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 03:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138534965920251 (code B ref 10387); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 03:21:01 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2013 03:20:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43199 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkmjK-0005GY-S8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:20:59 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:15782) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkmjJ-0005GM-QH for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:20:58 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxIQK/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0QAROIHgbBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxIQK/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0QAROIHgbBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="40315898" Received: from 69-196-132-10.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.132.10]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 24 Nov 2013 22:20:51 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id AC803600AE; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:20:49 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> <87vbzi3ubn.fsf@igel.home> <98707a01-802f-4ba7-83f5-592a1fc5af8c@default> <83wqjxbuk5.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:20:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83wqjxbuk5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:04:10 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > I think Unix TTYs can only read those combinations that are > characters. MS-Windows is different. Actually, POSIX ttys can transmit "any" key combo, including M-C-~, but for those combos like C-~ which aren't part of ASCII, they need to use some ad-hoc escape sequence. By default xterm has no such ad-hoc sequence for C-~, so it doesn't work. You can add such an ad-hoc sequence to xterm and then add the corresponding back-mapping in lisp/xterm.el, after which C-~ should work just fine as well. Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:56:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 10387@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.138537334426980 (code B ref 10387); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:56:03 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2013 09:55:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43682 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkstL-000715-62 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 04:55:43 -0500 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:40077 helo=mx2.suse.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkstI-00070w-4R for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 04:55:41 -0500 Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954CEA678C; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:55:38 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <4e9dd7b9-9109-4f67-a9a2-d3c13635c566@default> <87eh664rrr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878uwe62ae.fsf@igel.home> <7b510b39-00e7-49f6-a1ee-114652fd701c@default> <87vbzi3ubn.fsf@igel.home> <98707a01-802f-4ba7-83f5-592a1fc5af8c@default> <83wqjxbuk5.fsf@gnu.org> X-Yow: I LIKE Aisle 7a. Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:55:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:20:49 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Stefan Monnier writes: > Actually, POSIX ttys can transmit "any" key combo, Ttys transmit characters, period. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 06:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Olson , Jari Aalto Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.14563817833060 (code B ref 10387); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 06:30:03 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 06:29:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44609 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYpQl-0000nI-4u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 01:29:43 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:54674) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYpQi-0000n9-BC for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 01:29:41 -0500 Received: from [175.103.25.178] (helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aYpQH-0004iS-Sg; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 07:29:14 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:59:08 +1030 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:03:42 -0400") Message-ID: <87h9gxwbez.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aYpQH-0004iS-Sg X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1456986554.66843@eSsS4t3VWVLh3JoSmyhCoA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Stefan Monnier writes: > I actually like it, so I suggest to provide new functions > (search-text-property-forward START END PROP VALUE &optional OBJECT NOT-EQ) > and search-text-property-backward, implemented in C and then reimplement > text-property-any and text-property-not-all in Elisp on top of them (and > make them obsolete). Yeah, I think that's a good idea. I'll probably have a go at it sometime this year... :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Monnier Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Olson , Jari Aalto Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.145641213011613 (code B ref 10387); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 14:55:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46252 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYxKD-00031F-R5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:55:30 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:23821) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYxKB-000317-Cs for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:55:27 -0500 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u1PEtHBk021914 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:55:18 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1PEtHUt023769 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:55:17 GMT Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1PEtFVh010701; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:55:16 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <54709d49-f78c-4167-b738-0347ad4d0875@default> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 06:55:13 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> <87h9gxwbez.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87h9gxwbez.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > > I actually like it, so I suggest to provide new functions > > (search-text-property-forward START END PROP VALUE &optional > > OBJECT NOT-EQ) > > and search-text-property-backward, implemented in C and then > > reimplement text-property-any and text-property-not-all in Elisp > > on top of them (and make them obsolete). >=20 > Yeah, I think that's a good idea. I'll probably have a go at it > sometime this year... :-) Maybe see also: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/isearch-prop.el From unknown Mon Aug 18 04:43:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10387: CODE wishlist: search-prop.el Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 15:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10387 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Jari Aalto Cc: 10387@debbugs.gnu.org, mwolson@gnu.org Received: via spool by 10387-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10387.156165044918082 (code B ref 10387); Thu, 27 Jun 2019 15:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 10387) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jun 2019 15:47:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39349 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hgWcT-0004hN-78 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:47:29 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:44482) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hgWcR-0004fu-T6 for 10387@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:47:28 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hgWcN-0007HV-0m; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:47:26 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87wr9h2kju.fsf@cante.cante.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:47:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:07:10 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> search-property >> search-property-forward (interactive) >> search-property-backward (interactive) > > I like this. Gnus uses text properties extensively, and searching for > them using the standar [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> search-property >> search-property-forward (interactive) >> search-property-backward (interactive) > > I like this. Gnus uses text properties extensively, and searching for > them using the standard functions (`next-property-change' and friends) > is a hassle. > > `search-property' looks like what I have needed in the past. > > Would it be OK to install this in Emacs? (That was seven years ago.) Instead I implemented different versions of the same concept in Emacs a few years back, so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 27 11:47:35 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jun 2019 15:47:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39352 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hgWcZ-0004m5-Fa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:47:35 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:44508) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hgWcX-0004kS-NC for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:47:33 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=stories) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hgWcV-0007Hd-5Y for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:47:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 17:47:31 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #10387 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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