From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:44:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10383: 24.0.91; (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) breaks the world Resent-From: Eric Hanchrow Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10383 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 10383@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.132502483328409 (code B ref -1); Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:28:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Dec 2011 22:27:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RffUG-0007OA-Li for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:27:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RffUD-0007O1-3j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:27:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RffRb-00069C-1i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:24:28 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:43544) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RffRb-000698-0E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:24:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58017) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RffRZ-0004is-Iy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:24:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RffRY-00068o-0i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:24:25 -0500 Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com ([74.125.83.41]:61365) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RffRX-00068i-IP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:24:23 -0500 Received: by eekc41 with SMTP id c41so12602338eek.0 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:24:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=r+qvWSXXky5nNZjZS2udpuUpN2MRpxz8nSj9F6+DP5k=; b=u3pSa4JEP//Frl09f9vltIOM4ewdbcK2OTr27R28GV9t/hjE4VC5wimpnJz7G6EoNc lo7S9soCTay/vVsEwxL93GmfT7NmojxRdN+hvgYgqBCrK5ZxKgx0KaCJhZAkTMhSaQc6 tCqa17Obpg7iuox5uajWCoNx17kaRnwrkjWQc= Received: by 10.204.146.74 with SMTP id g10mr7435507bkv.131.1325024659318; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:24:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.40.80 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:23:58 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Hanchrow Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:23:58 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up to one day, you should receive an acknowledgement at that address. Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators for other languages. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': This is commit 0bd650c Author: Chong Yidong Date: Sun Dec 25 06:16:00 2011 More updates to Maintaining chapter of Emacs manual. Type the following in *scratch*, then C-x C-e: (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) Now type C-x d. You'll see an error: Cannot open load file: dired You will soon find that your emacs is entirely broken, since no files can be loaded. If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file /home/ehanchrow/local/emacs-master-gui/share/emacs/24.0.91/etc/DEBUG. In GNU Emacs 24.0.91.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2011-11-16 on rampage.sea Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10402000 configured using `configure '--prefix=/home/ehanchrow/local/emacs-master-gui'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Shell Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t recentf-mode: t ido-everywhere: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: f o r SPC o SPC i n SPC M-d M-d C-d M-f C-f C-k SPC ; SPC d o SPC C-y M-b M-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-k $ o ; SPC d o n e C-x o C-f C-u C-x = C-x b M-b M-b M-b M-b M-b C-b C-b ' \ 0 2 7 3 ' SPC C-x b C-f C-u C-x = C-x b ' \ 0 2 7 7 ' C-e M-p M-b M-b M-b M-b M-p S-SPC | S-SPC o d SPC - c M-p > SPC / t m p / g a a a h C-x o C-x b C-n C-n C-f C-f C-f C-f C-SPC M-f M-f M-f M-f M-f M-f M-f M-f M-w C-x o e c h o SPC C-y SPC > > SPC / t m p / g a f i l e SPC / t m p / g a C-x o C-x C-f / t m p / g s a C-f C-b C-b C-u C-x = M-x h e x l - f i n d g a y M-x f u n d y M-x n o r m C-x o C-x b s h e ~ / l o c s r e m s r e m SPC - Q C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-SPC C-e M-w C-n C-SPC C-M-b C-M-b C-M-b C-M-b C-M-b C-M-b C-M-b C-M-b C-M-b M-w M-> M-p C-c C-c M-x r e p o r t - e m a c s - b u g Recent messages: The file gaaah is already visited normally. You have asked to visit it literally, meaning no coding system decoding, format conversion, or local variables. But Emacs can only visit a file in one way at a time. Do you want to revisit the file literally now? (y or n) y Convert contents back to binary format? (y or n) y Auto-saving...done Mark set [3 times] History item: 1 Load-path shadows: ~/.emacs.d/custom hides /home/ehanchrow/local/emacs-master-gui/share/emacs/24.0.91/lisp/custom /usr/local/src/magit/.dir-locals hides /home/ehanchrow/local/emacs-master-gui/share/emacs/24.0.91/lisp/gnus/.dir-locals Features: (shadow sort message format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader emacsbug ruler-mode mule-util hl-line hexl mail-extr pp descr-text newcomment multi-isearch cperl-mode ffap help-mode pcmpl-unix shell pcomplete woman man package tabulated-list midnight uniquify warnings protbuf marchex-erich column-marker magit-bisect magit-key-mode magit diff-mode log-edit pcvs-util add-log vc-git autorevert paste-to-dropbox ansi-color geiser-racket geiser-guile geiser-repl geiser-doc geiser-compile geiser-debug geiser-menu geiser-company geiser-autodoc advice advice-preload eldoc info-look info geiser-edit etags geiser-completion easy-mmode geiser-eval geiser-connection tq geiser-syntax scheme geiser-log derived geiser-popup view geiser-impl help-fns geiser-custom geiser-base geiser path server starttls smtpmail auth-source eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cconv macroexp assoc gnus-util password-cache sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils grep compile comint ring cl find-func ibuf-ext ibuf-macs ibuffer recentf tree-widget wid-edit ido dired-x easymenu dired regexp-opt edmacro kmacro rx autoinsert time time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:44:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10383: 24.0.91; (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) breaks the world References: Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10383 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Hanchrow Cc: 10383@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10383-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10383.132505983716843 (code B ref 10383); Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 10383) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Dec 2011 08:10:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rfoaq-0004Nb-OO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:10:36 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rfoan-0004NP-EO for 10383@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:10:35 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id pBS87ilq010588; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:07:44 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp2.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id pBS87his002812; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:07:44 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id pBS87hbg020568; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:07:43 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (message from Eric Hanchrow on Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:23:58 -0800) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:07:43 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) In article , Eric Hanchrow writes: > Type the following in *scratch*, then C-x C-e: > (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) > Now type C-x d. > You'll see an error: > Cannot open load file: dired > You will soon find that your emacs is entirely broken, since no files > can be loaded. This is because utf-8-with-signature is recognized as ASCII compatible and thus default-file-coding-system is also set to it. I've just committed a fix to make utf-8-with-signature not ASCII compatible. Please try again with the latest trunk code. By the way, as a result, now (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) does not change default-file-coding-system. I'm not sure what is the intention of preferring utf-8-with-signature, one may want default-file-coding-system be set to utf-8 in such a case. But, doing that automatically is too heuristic. Another possibility is that what actually wanted is such a coding as utf-8-with-signature-on-decoding-only (i.e. on decoding, BOM is recognized, but on encoding, don't produce BOM). --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:44:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10383: 24.0.91; (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) breaks the world Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10383 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: eric.hanchrow@gmail.com, 10383@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 10383-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10383.132506246620499 (code B ref 10383); Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 10383) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Dec 2011 08:54:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RfpHF-0005Ka-LB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:54:26 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RfpHD-0005KT-Ic for 10383@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:54:24 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RfpEY-00012c-F5; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:51:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:51:38 -0500 Message-Id: From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:07:43 +0900) References: X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) > From: Kenichi Handa > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:07:43 +0900 > Cc: 10383@debbugs.gnu.org > > By the way, as a result, now > > (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) > > does not change default-file-coding-system. I'm not sure > what is the intention of preferring utf-8-with-signature, > one may want default-file-coding-system be set to utf-8 in > such a case. But, doing that automatically is too > heuristic. How about making prefer-coding-system display a message suggesting that the user considers setting default-file-coding-system to utf-8? > Another possibility is that what actually wanted is such a coding as > utf-8-with-signature-on-decoding-only (i.e. on decoding, BOM is > recognized, but on encoding, don't produce BOM). If we can express this with current facilities, I'd say include that information in the above-mentioned message. From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:44:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10383: 24.0.91; (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) breaks the world Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10383 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: Eric Hanchrow , 10383@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10383-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10383.1325071239880 (code B ref 10383); Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:21:01 +0000 Received: (at 10383) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Dec 2011 11:20:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RfrYg-0000E5-AQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:20:37 -0500 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RfrYY-0000Di-OU for 10383@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:20:29 -0500 Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pBSBHVqc013470; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:17:33 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 77BD8665E9; Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:49:53 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:49:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:07:43 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4084=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4084> : streams <714547> : uri <1036205> X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) > This is because utf-8-with-signature is recognized as ASCII > compatible and thus default-file-coding-system is also set > to it. I've just committed a fix to make > utf-8-with-signature not ASCII compatible. Please try > again with the latest trunk code. That looks like a good fix. > By the way, as a result, now > (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) > does not change default-file-coding-system. That's fine. A call to `message' might be a good addition to help the user understand that his config might not be doing what she expects. > I'm not sure what is the intention of preferring utf-8-with-signature, > one may want default-file-coding-system be set to utf-8 in such > a case. I wouldn't waste too much time on it. > But, doing that automatically is too heuristic. Another possibility > is that what actually wanted is such a coding as > utf-8-with-signature-on-decoding-only (i.e. on decoding, BOM is > recognized, but on encoding, don't produce BOM). Not necessarily. My guess is that the user doesn't realize that coding-systems are not only used to load and save whole files but also on chunks of texts in lots of other cases, where a BOM doesn't make any sense. Stefan From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:44:38 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10383: 24.0.91; (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) breaks the world Resent-From: Eric Hanchrow Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10383 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 10383@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10383-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10383.132520146130128 (code B ref 10383); Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 10383) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2011 23:31:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RgPR6-0007ps-H4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:31:00 -0500 Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RgPR4-0007pl-Eo for 10383@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:30:59 -0500 Received: by eaak10 with SMTP id k10so5198991eaa.3 for <10383@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:28:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xqMsmxlwFpWJG8aFnjT3evJLGirhFEBKZ2VrtKqYgEY=; b=GLV56b5Sym0hgxm9KJW5qe8Wefj7a1fAEBsA1QdqKMEx91WzXX2+Y1kJEZPB43oGow 5YUFfg/WyDiozYziSbpL/iNhmuRh1vVU4IqCOhr9uIuNjsK+ebleN2Em/Dq6Mlt02oVf pYMlEDuTHGPMo+EoNiCkgYXCEUsdAHHsWNEmY= Received: by 10.205.127.17 with SMTP id gy17mr9085433bkc.113.1325201285203; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:28:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.40.80 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:27:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eric Hanchrow Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:27:44 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) Thanks, that indeed fixes it. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Kenichi Handa wrote: > In article , Eric Hanchrow writes: > >> Type the following in *scratch*, then C-x C-e: >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) >> Now type C-x d. >> You'll see an error: >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cannot open load file: dired >> You will soon find that your emacs is entirely broken, since no files >> can be loaded. > > This is because utf-8-with-signature is recognized as ASCII > compatible and thus default-file-coding-system is also set > to it. =C2=A0I've just committed a fix to make > utf-8-with-signature not ASCII compatible. =C2=A0Please try > again with the latest trunk code. > > By the way, as a result, now > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0(prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-with-signature) > > does not change default-file-coding-system. =C2=A0I'm not sure > what is the intention of preferring utf-8-with-signature, > one may want default-file-coding-system be set to utf-8 in > such a case. =C2=A0But, doing that automatically is too > heuristic. =C2=A0Another possibility is that what actually wanted > is such a coding as utf-8-with-signature-on-decoding-only > (i.e. on decoding, BOM is recognized, but on encoding, don't > produce BOM). > > --- > Kenichi Handa > handa@m17n.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 07 02:14:26 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2012 07:14:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47631 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjQTw-0001t7-81 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:14:24 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:34909 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjQTu-0001t1-Vt for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:14:23 -0500 Received: from bb220-255-176-96.singnet.com.sg ([220.255.176.96]:47615 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjQTt-0002vi-3p for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:14:21 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 10383 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 15:14:11 +0800 Message-ID: <87ty48kmrg.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) close 10383 thanks