From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:09:49 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#10334 <10334@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#10334 <10334@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.92; Doc fix Reply-To: bug#10334 <10334@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 00:09:49 +0000 retitle 10334 24.0.92; Doc fix reassign 10334 emacs submitter 10334 Dani Moncayo severity 10334 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 20 13:58:52 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2011 18:58:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd4tn-0004Ph-Qo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:58:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd4tl-0004PZ-GA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:56:38 -0500 Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so4784502ghr.0 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:56:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GCZA9EbN9k2n55AUBzGTCPikwpf+456yFSdNxUExsa8=; b=YLDZ2xkK9R3sSWbsFPm2WoMAOye0QPC4eljQkXGjwu6pxXWWd5Bd9+8Uw19DYOrP7K hCdjfIEowwg2jxMvTYlsiUHeZ5tg9XI6M1rroKzd464tKxEfnym98NGcnEmVV0ngbQKx 8gEMO7cB2vWyYjjMgECARQDONFKyDhrK+Pgps= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.130.7 with SMTP id h7mr1737884ann.30.1324407397028; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:56:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.114.168 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:56:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:56:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: 24.0.92; Doc fix From: Dani Moncayo To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Hi, Here's a documentation patch: * The first part of the hunk clarifies a bit that paragraph, explaining first how the new buffer's major mode is determined, and then how is re-established when the buffer is saved to a file. * The second part fixes a mistake. =3D=3D=3D modified file 'doc/emacs/buffers.texi' --- doc/emacs/buffers.texi =A0 =A0 =A02011-10-23 14:57:53 +0000 +++ doc/emacs/buffers.texi =A0 =A0 =A02011-12-20 18:38:44 +0000 @@ -103,19 +103,20 @@ =A0buffer name. =A0@xref{Completion Exit}, for details. =A0 One reason to create a new buffer is to use it for making temporary -notes. =A0If you try to save it, Emacs asks for the file name to use. -The default value of the variable @code{major-mode} determines the new -buffer's major mode; the default value is Fundamental mode. =A0@xref{Major -Modes}. +notes. =A0The default value of the variable @code{major-mode} determines +the new buffer's major mode; the default value is Fundamental mode. +@xref{Major Modes}. =A0If you try to save it, Emacs asks for the file +name to use, and the major mode is then re-established, based on that +file name. =A0@kindex C-x @key{LEFT} =A0@kindex C-x @key{RIGHT} =A0@findex next-buffer =A0@findex previous-buffer =A0 For conveniently switching between a few buffers, use the commands -@kbd{C-x @key{LEFT}} and @kbd{C-x @key{RIGHT}}. =A0@kbd{C-x @key{RIGHT}} +@kbd{C-x @key{LEFT}} and @kbd{C-x @key{RIGHT}}. =A0@kbd{C-x @key{LEFT}} =A0(@code{previous-buffer}) selects the previous buffer (following the orde= r -of most recent selection in the current frame), while @kbd{C-x @key{LEFT}} +of most recent selection in the current frame), while @kbd{C-x @key{RIGHT}= } =A0(@code{next-buffer}) moves through buffers in the reverse direction. =A0@kindex C-x 4 b -- Dani Moncayo In GNU Emacs 24.0.92.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2011-12-16 on DANI-PC Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --cflags -fno-omit-frame-pointer' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 20 15:29:51 2011 Received: (at 10334) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2011 20:29:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd6Jq-0006Uc-Q3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:29:51 -0500 Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.160.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd6Jo-0006UU-8R for 10334@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:29:49 -0500 Received: by ghbg18 with SMTP id g18so1173238ghb.3 for <10334@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:27:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dk4p6r6GZNDcjsTTKI2LerKp7JkpAN/NgO5mv+WGFpc=; b=w5d9ABa2ggIwPP5zYlLybTjdWuTvzv2Obs8e684DWFF+SHG6dn3llT1wQzVvKUmzZN EtZiVzSAZHd+m/+FbYNXN3BxuQ60ZhBz5Mx5nFdscilxL0gPybL8ZNS6KAOK433jwxXd crGGRmi50JkwP2QFWUGSXLmCAfOHcDbTcfpsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.189.104 with SMTP id b68mr6537107yhn.21.1324412867880; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:27:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.114.168 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:27:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:27:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#10334: 24.0.92; Doc fix From: Dani Moncayo To: 10334@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10334 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) Another thing that should be fixed: Info node "(emacs)Misc Buffer" follows the typical structure which first describes some commands briefly, and then gives more detailed explanations. But this structure is broken in these cases: * The command `view-buffer' appears at the top (summary section) but not at the bottom (detailed section). * Conversely, the commands `append-to-buffer' and `insert-buffer' appear at the bottom but not at the top. -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 20 16:11:47 2011 Received: (at 10334) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2011 21:11:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd6yR-0007S8-8L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:11:47 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rd6yP-0007S0-5Y for 10334@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:11:46 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LWI00400TFBB700@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 10334@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:09:43 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.39.203]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LWI004S5TG6A820@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:09:43 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:09:50 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#10334: 24.0.92; Doc fix In-reply-to: To: Dani Moncayo Message-id: <83d3bjymox.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il References: X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10334 Cc: 10334@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:56:37 +0100 > From: Dani Moncayo >=20 > Here's a documentation patch: Thanks. > =A0 One reason to create a new buffer is to use it for making tempo= rary > -notes. =A0If you try to save it, Emacs asks for the file name to u= se. > -The default value of the variable @code{major-mode} determines the= new > -buffer's major mode; the default value is Fundamental mode. =A0@xr= ef{Major > -Modes}. > +notes. =A0The default value of the variable @code{major-mode} dete= rmines > +the new buffer's major mode; the default value is Fundamental mode= . > +@xref{Major Modes}. =A0If you try to save it, Emacs asks for the f= ile > +name to use, and the major mode is then re-established, based on t= hat > +file name. This change makes the text harder to understand. Previously, it was clear that "it" in "If you try to save it" referred to the new buffer= , because that sentence directly followed the one which talked about creating a new buffer. By moving "If you try to save it", you made "it" ambiguous: now it's unclear what it refers to; it could be the major mode, for example. Here's what I think is a better version: One reason to create a new buffer is to use it for making temporary notes. If you try to save it, Emacs asks for the file name to use. The default value of the variable @code{major-mode} determines the new buffer's major mode; the default value is Fundamental mode (@pxref{Major Modes}). However, the file name you give when saving the buffer may cause Emacs to change the buffer's major mode as appropriate for that file name. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 21 02:24:47 2011 Received: (at 10334) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2011 07:24:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdGXf-0005GS-Pw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:24:47 -0500 Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.213.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdGXe-0005GK-BN for 10334@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:24:47 -0500 Received: by yenm7 with SMTP id m7so4299501yen.3 for <10334@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:22:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cNAhCYGUKAgpGsCoEWDXPDiWESCpbhGJXQmwbjQ1iz0=; b=dHB4WRoIDzmPKhuQ3XpkOAvXxjaJYJrrslRWfEMc4XqRvUjTUeOcH7JMw0O9Oc6oNh YitiEoqKMCVxnCv3IOh+rdHtIXoWbf8AEitXTTSdKvTcRHDgkorK651cSmb6uOjsqdl0 GYWSY6D1KH8yzqAlzl8a3B5sKG2G7DYUCct34= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.183.133 with SMTP id q5mr8061011yhm.38.1324452163325; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.114.168 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:22:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83d3bjymox.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83d3bjymox.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:22:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#10334: 24.0.92; Doc fix From: Dani Moncayo To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10334 Cc: 10334@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) > Here's what I think is a better version: > > =A0One reason to create a new buffer is to use it for making temporary > =A0notes. =A0If you try to save it, Emacs asks for the file name to use. > =A0The default value of the variable @code{major-mode} determines the > =A0new buffer's major mode; the default value is Fundamental mode > =A0(@pxref{Major Modes}). =A0However, the file name you give when saving > =A0the buffer may cause Emacs to change the buffer's major mode as > =A0appropriate for that file name. That's fine with me. --=20 Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 08 07:12:32 2012 Received: (at 10334) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2012 12:12:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49575 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjrby-0002BM-To for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 07:12:31 -0500 Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.161.172]:50948) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjrbx-0002BB-Gr for 10334@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 07:12:30 -0500 Received: by ggnk5 with SMTP id k5so1170415ggn.3 for <10334@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 04:12:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RgSMB3yJzy9fbHPFNDyr1GuRUn6ixMTu3g1Ksr4GnQQ=; b=mT33dVGFuSzvDj5NqXLTngRF4xpjZLu1qbslw1PFNhy0kMrvr02I3cPMOCS93/a6GE gqwwQMuP2tkGFxPMbaUnKDBh7vLOZ775b/F17ZveYmitruguMgnpjEwt/d2scPCFPUmX Zq8ktibJJAqZHUbl3c8gzo+dttAePt+e8vWb8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.131.12 with SMTP id i12mr4300261ann.7.1326024736156; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 04:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.116.230 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:12:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <83d3bjymox.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:12:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#10334: 24.0.92; Doc fix From: Dani Moncayo To: 10334@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10334 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Here's another doc fix: =3D=3D=3D modified file 'doc/emacs/text.texi' --- doc/emacs/text.texi 2012-01-05 09:46:05 +0000 +++ doc/emacs/text.texi 2012-01-08 12:07:40 +0000 @@ -546,8 +546,8 @@ =A0newline as the end of a sentence; a period followed by just one space =A0indicates an abbreviation, not the end of a sentence. =A0Accordingly, =A0the fill commands will not break a line after a period followed by -just one space. =A0If you change the variable -@code{sentence-end-double-space} to a non-@code{nil} value, the fill +just one space. =A0If you set the variable +@code{sentence-end-double-space} to @code{nil}, the fill =A0commands will break a line after a period followed by one space, and =A0put just one space after each period. =A0@xref{Sentences}, for other =A0effects and possible drawbacks of this. --=20 Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 27 03:21:17 2012 Received: (at 10334) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2012 08:21:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46103 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqh3c-00006u-Ty for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:21:17 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:36451 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqh3a-00006l-97 for 10334@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:21:15 -0500 Received: from [155.69.17.161] (port=44756 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqh2y-0001Zx-RK; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:20:37 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: Dani Moncayo Subject: Re: bug#10334: 24.0.92; Doc fix References: <83d3bjymox.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:20:29 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Dani Moncayo's message of "Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:12:16 +0100") Message-ID: <87ty3hblpu.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10334 Cc: 10334@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Dani Moncayo writes: > Here's another doc fix: Thanks, I've committed the various fixed you pointed out in this thread to the trunk. > * The command `view-buffer' appears at the top (summary section) but > not at the bottom (detailed section). > * Conversely, the commands `append-to-buffer' and `insert-buffer' > appear at the bottom but not at the top. These are because the commands are discussed in detail elsewhere. I edited the text to make this clearer. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 27 03:21:33 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2012 08:21:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46106 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqh3s-00007K-Op for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:21:33 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:36459 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqh3r-00007E-M9 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:21:32 -0500 Received: from [155.69.17.161] (port=44757 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqh3G-0001ab-2H for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:20:54 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 10334 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:20:50 +0800 Message-ID: <87boppr1y5.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) close 10334 thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 27 04:41:33 2012 Received: (at 10334) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2012 09:41:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46198 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqiJJ-0003Z9-N5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:41:33 -0500 Received: from mail-tul01m020-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:35700) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqiJE-0003Yt-6F for 10334@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:41:32 -0500 Received: by obbwc12 with SMTP id wc12so1488560obb.3 for <10334@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:40:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lSPrdk5ZFrLh3ZtWPUSwg5jgtr854S65MRhKLJN7Xqg=; b=n40YB/oc8GEvqb6932W9Btckxi20VfQXGYk5EPfshJZrWulfDOi8ICLYL83ZJ9FwYS nnyxVYsB20QKf4V7E9y386ggS7Rvrjf6i1pYk3cEGUJsRy9Q174iNBcAJ6XcMPOx5UKP rOfyNdGLdYG4/9b8linwnqjQ9aRZh3eOvaKNk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.109.106 with SMTP id hr10mr5723619obb.27.1327657245680; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.27.138 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:40:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ty3hblpu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83d3bjymox.fsf@gnu.org> <87ty3hblpu.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:40:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#10334: 24.0.92; Doc fix From: Dani Moncayo To: Chong Yidong Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10334 Cc: 10334@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) > Thanks, I've committed the various fixed you pointed out in this thread > to the trunk. Thanks Chong. But I wonder why you didn't mention anything about the major-mode re-setting that may take place after you save the new buffer to a file. Eli's version explained this point: > One reason to create a new buffer is to use it for making temporary > notes. If you try to save it, Emacs asks for the file name to use. > The default value of the variable @code{major-mode} determines the > new buffer's major mode; the default value is Fundamental mode > (@pxref{Major Modes}). However, the file name you give when saving > the buffer may cause Emacs to change the buffer's major mode as > appropriate for that file name. -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 23 15:38:15 2012 Received: (at 10334) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2012 20:38:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53048 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0fQc-0005Rz-Cc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:38:15 -0500 Received: from mail-tul01m020-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:54391) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0fQZ-0005Rm-IZ for 10334@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:38:12 -0500 Received: by obbwd15 with SMTP id wd15so1763784obb.3 for <10334@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dmoncayo@gmail.com designates 10.182.192.36 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.182.192.36; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dmoncayo@gmail.com designates 10.182.192.36 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=dmoncayo@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=dmoncayo@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.182.192.36]) by 10.182.192.36 with SMTP id hd4mr1111984obc.60.1330029336245 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:35:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T9//yHHc2scwndMJrejd59YrYEi763hG/k78XwYBvRE=; b=E7OdepiSVJLN8q5s1xH2c7WxyvlDkYp18V35Poy53wTGf3+zN6Wa8Ni9X39sJejNZP VsFXTQgcbnWFjNpnrrDvDPOeksYmxz33QeSqOxM+fkmllvH2eG2D/7rN81N2pb/cFTH4 J5OZNK9zqwezT/D9+hd03xGNIfmb4Gag5Be70= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.192.36 with SMTP id hd4mr971604obc.60.1330029336187; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.42.193 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:35:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <83d3bjymox.fsf@gnu.org> <87ty3hblpu.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:35:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#10334: 24.0.92; Doc fix From: Dani Moncayo To: Chong Yidong Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10334 Cc: 10334@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) >> Thanks, I've committed the various fixed you pointed out in this thread >> to the trunk. > > Thanks Chong. =A0But I wonder why you didn't mention anything about the > major-mode re-setting that may take place after you save the new > buffer to a file. Ping. I think that the explanation about the new buffer's major mode would be more complete if we mention that the major mode may change when the buffer is saved to a file. For example: =3D=3D=3D modified file 'doc/emacs/buffers.texi' --- doc/emacs/buffers.texi 2012-02-09 06:43:23 +0000 +++ doc/emacs/buffers.texi 2012-02-23 20:28:35 +0000 @@ -106,7 +106,9 @@ determines the new buffer's major mode; the default value is Fundamental mode. @xref{Major Modes}. One reason to create a new buffer is to use it for making temporary notes. If you try to save -it, Emacs asks for the file name to use. +it, Emacs asks for the file name to use, and the buffer's major mode +is re-established taking that file name into account (@pxref{Choosing +Modes}). @kindex C-x @key{LEFT} @kindex C-x @key{RIGHT} --=20 Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 24 22:52:09 2012 Received: (at 10334) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2012 03:52:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54876 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S18g5-0006eA-Cs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:52:09 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:52703) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S18g4-0006e2-6u for 10334@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:52:08 -0500 Received: from bb116-14-103-36.singnet.com.sg ([116.14.103.36]:55271 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S18dV-0006wi-In; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:49:30 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: Dani Moncayo Subject: Re: bug#10334: 24.0.92; Doc fix References: <83d3bjymox.fsf@gnu.org> <87ty3hblpu.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:49:22 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Dani Moncayo's message of "Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:35:36 +0100") Message-ID: <871upjzi65.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10334 Cc: 10334@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Dani Moncayo writes: > I think that the explanation about the new buffer's major mode would > be more complete if we mention that the major mode may change when the > buffer is saved to a file. Committed, thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:09:49 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator