From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 13 17:20:19 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2011 22:20:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Raaht-0007SV-TE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:20:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Raahs-0007SO-Ml for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:20:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RaagZ-0007K6-GW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:18:56 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:51482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RaagZ-0007K2-DP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:18:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RaagY-0007DI-Ar for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:18:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RaagX-0007Jq-5C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:18:54 -0500 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:16896) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RaagW-0007Ji-UJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:18:53 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pBDMInR2030660 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:18:50 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBDMIm9o020711 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:18:49 GMT Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id pBDMIhBM004594 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:18:43 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:18:43 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.92; doc string of `set-face-attribute' Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:18:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3C1EA0EF4D5D402298A5E44BD5C5D8F8@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acy55StQgtgICOGDR3mTAp1F1bCtOg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4EE7CF4A.004B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) The Elisp manual is clear. The doc string is not: "FRAME nil means change attributes on all frames." You must tell users just what "all frames" you have in mind here - be explicit. Say what the manual says: "this function sets the attributes for all existing frames, and the default for new frames" It is quite important that by "all frames" you mean all existing frames AND all future frames. That is not clear, not obvious. In GNU Emacs 24.0.92.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-12-06 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-2.10.1/include --ldflags -LD:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-2.10.1/lib' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 07 01:01:29 2012 Received: (at 10294) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2012 06:01:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47566 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjPLN-0006yP-0r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:01:29 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56575) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjPLL-0006yF-4z for 10294@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:01:28 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjPLB-0003Jc-TJ; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:01:17 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#10294: 24.0.92; doc string of `set-face-attribute' References: <3C1EA0EF4D5D402298A5E44BD5C5D8F8@us.oracle.com> X-Now-Playing: LA Vampires's _So Unreal_: "Don't Dance Along" Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:01:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3C1EA0EF4D5D402298A5E44BD5C5D8F8@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:18:41 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1RjPLB-0003Jc-TJ X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1326520878.08026@2S5/mA4ThD/gXxAIGSUH8w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10294 Cc: 10294@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) "Drew Adams" writes: > The Elisp manual is clear. The doc string is not: > > "FRAME nil means change attributes on all frames." > > You must tell users just what "all frames" you have in mind here - be > explicit. Say what the manual says: > > "this function sets the attributes for all existing frames, and the > default for new frames" > > It is quite important that by "all frames" you mean all existing frames > AND all future frames. That is not clear, not obvious. Ok; fixed. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 07 01:01:32 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2012 06:01:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47569 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjPLQ-0006yd-6l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:01:32 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56585) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjPLO-0006yW-Cr for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:01:30 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjPLF-0003Jm-2O for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:01:21 +0100 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:01:20 +0100 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #10294 X-MailScanner-ID: 1RjPLF-0003Jm-2O X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1326520881.31915@NnElkO7Tyc9CVL3wjbG/VA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) tags 10294 fixed close 10294 24.1 From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:54:00 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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