From unknown Sun Aug 17 10:21:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10234: Coreutils incompatibility with POSIX make Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10234 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Basavaraj B Cc: 10234@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: Bug-coreutils Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.132319121210367 (code B ref -1); Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:07:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2011 17:06:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXyTk-0002h9-C7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:06:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXyTh-0002h1-4h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXyT3-00068g-6S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:06:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:60002) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXyT3-00068Y-4i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:06:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44368) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXyT1-0007Qi-3f for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:06:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXySv-00066w-2r for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:06:07 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:45986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXySu-00066Z-Op for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:06:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1E9A60002; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:05:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QLK8zAWHvkvs; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3DEEE39E8008; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:05:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EDE4B6B.3040507@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 09:05:47 -0800 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111115 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4EDD40A5.5050100@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) [This is a followon to Bug#10220, but it's a separate issue, so I'm opening up a new bug report.] On 12/06/11 01:11, Basavaraj B wrote: > )rm -f alloca.h-t alloca.h && { echo '/* DO NOT EDIT! GENERATED > AUTOMATICALLY! */'; cat ./alloca.in.h; } > alloca.h-h > /bin/sh: syntax error at line 1 : `)' unexpected > *** Error code 2 Ouch. Coreutils is built with Automake's silent-rules feature, and as I just now discovered, that feature is documented to not be portable to POSIX make. NonStop make conforms to POSIX in this area but disagrees with GNU make. The simplest fix is to disable the silent-rules feature; it doesn't suffice to run 'configure --disable-silent-rules'. The following patch should fix things for you; could you please give it a try? You'll need to run 'automake' etc. afterwards -- if you lack the autotools on NonStop you can run them on a Linux box, copy the results to NonStop, and then run 'configure' on NonStop. ===== build: disable silent-rules * configure.ac (AM_SILENT_RULES): Remove. This option generates makefiles that are incompatible with POSIX make, and which do not work on NonStop. Problem reported by Basavaraj B. diff --git a/configure.ac b/configure.ac index 9ca2ce4..f65fb81 100644 --- a/configure.ac +++ b/configure.ac @@ -33,7 +33,6 @@ AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR([build-aux]) AC_CONFIG_HEADERS([lib/config.h:lib/config.hin]) AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([1.11.1 no-dist-gzip dist-xz color-tests parallel-tests]) -AM_SILENT_RULES([yes]) # make --enable-silent-rules the default. AC_PROG_CC_STDC AM_PROG_CC_C_O From unknown Sun Aug 17 10:21:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10234: Coreutils incompatibility with POSIX make Resent-From: Jim Meyering Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10234 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Paul Eggert Cc: Basavaraj B , 10234@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10234.132319301515919 (code B ref 10234); Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 10234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2011 17:36:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXywp-00048i-Cf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:36:55 -0500 Received: from mx.meyering.net ([88.168.87.75]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXywm-00048a-MY for 10234@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:36:53 -0500 Received: from rho.meyering.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister) with ESMTP id F3310604FC; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:36:10 +0100 (CET) From: Jim Meyering In-Reply-To: <4EDE4B6B.3040507@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Tue, 06 Dec 2011 09:05:47 -0800") References: <4EDD40A5.5050100@cs.ucla.edu> <4EDE4B6B.3040507@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:36:09 +0100 Message-ID: <8762ht4n7a.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Lines: 49 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Paul Eggert wrote: > [This is a followon to Bug#10220, but it's a separate issue, > so I'm opening up a new bug report.] > > On 12/06/11 01:11, Basavaraj B wrote: > >> )rm -f alloca.h-t alloca.h && { echo '/* DO NOT EDIT! GENERATED >> AUTOMATICALLY! */'; cat ./alloca.in.h; } > alloca.h-h >> /bin/sh: syntax error at line 1 : `)' unexpected >> *** Error code 2 > > Ouch. Coreutils is built with Automake's silent-rules feature, > and as I just now discovered, that feature is documented to not > be portable to POSIX make. NonStop make conforms to POSIX in > this area but disagrees with GNU make. The simplest fix is to > disable the silent-rules feature; it doesn't suffice to run > 'configure --disable-silent-rules'. > > The following patch should fix things for you; could you please > give it a try? You'll need to run 'automake' etc. afterwards -- > if you lack the autotools on NonStop you can run them on a Linux > box, copy the results to NonStop, and then run 'configure' on NonStop. > > ===== > > build: disable silent-rules > * configure.ac (AM_SILENT_RULES): Remove. This option generates > makefiles that are incompatible with POSIX make, and which do not > work on NonStop. Problem reported by Basavaraj B. > diff --git a/configure.ac b/configure.ac > index 9ca2ce4..f65fb81 100644 > --- a/configure.ac > +++ b/configure.ac > @@ -33,7 +33,6 @@ AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR([build-aux]) > AC_CONFIG_HEADERS([lib/config.h:lib/config.hin]) > > AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([1.11.1 no-dist-gzip dist-xz color-tests parallel-tests]) > -AM_SILENT_RULES([yes]) # make --enable-silent-rules the default. Hi Paul, IMO, nonstop is a fringe target, so I am very reluctant to sacrifice the above default solely to accommodate that system. I would rather simply encourage people using that system to install and use GNU make. I similar feelings about the recent \#-related change, since it obfuscates our Makefile.am files, but obviously the impact there is negligible, so that change is acceptable. From unknown Sun Aug 17 10:21:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10234: Coreutils incompatibility with POSIX make Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10234 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jim Meyering Cc: Basavaraj B , 10234@debbugs.gnu.org, 10237@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10234.132319440418140 (code B ref 10234); Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 10234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2011 18:00:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXzJC-0004iR-E4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:00:03 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXzJ9-0004hc-PV; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:00:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A873839E800B; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:59:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o7NA729UdUST; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:59:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD88AA60002; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:59:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EDE57F5.7090007@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 09:59:17 -0800 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111115 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4EDD40A5.5050100@cs.ucla.edu> <4EDE4B6B.3040507@cs.ucla.edu> <8762ht4n7a.fsf@rho.meyering.net> In-Reply-To: <8762ht4n7a.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On 12/06/11 09:36, Jim Meyering wrote: > I am very reluctant to > sacrifice the above default solely to accommodate that system. Yes, the "make" chatter is annoying, but on the other hand being portable is pretty important too. It's not just NonStop; NextStep 'make' has a similar problem, and I wouldn't be surprised if it crops up on other (admittedly minor) targets. I have filed a bug report against this with Automake; see (warning: the GNU mailing list software has turned some "@"s into " "s in that patch.) Let's see if we can get it solved that way -- it shouldn't be too hard, and it'd be much nicer. From unknown Sun Aug 17 10:21:48 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10234: Coreutils incompatibility with POSIX make Resent-From: Eric Blake Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10234 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jim Meyering Cc: Basavaraj B , Paul Eggert , 10234@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10234-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10234.132319835229985 (code B ref 10234); Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 10234) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2011 19:05:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RY0Ku-0007na-BG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:05:52 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RY0Kq-0007nP-EF for 10234@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:05:50 -0500 Received: from int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.25]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pB6J4UVY006950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:05:08 -0500 Received: from [10.3.113.89] (ovpn-113-89.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.89]) by int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pB6HfSnY001415; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:41:28 -0500 Message-ID: <4EDE53C8.5050703@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 10:41:28 -0700 From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111115 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4EDD40A5.5050100@cs.ucla.edu> <4EDE4B6B.3040507@cs.ucla.edu> <8762ht4n7a.fsf@rho.meyering.net> In-Reply-To: <8762ht4n7a.fsf@rho.meyering.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig50EA9DB7655CABDEB8CEFD86" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.25 X-Spam-Score: -10.3 (----------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -10.3 (----------) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig50EA9DB7655CABDEB8CEFD86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/06/2011 10:36 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: > Paul Eggert wrote: >> [This is a followon to Bug#10220, but it's a separate issue, >> so I'm opening up a new bug report.] >> >> On 12/06/11 01:11, Basavaraj B wrote: >> >>> )rm -f alloca.h-t alloca.h && { echo '/* DO NOT EDIT! GENERATED >>> AUTOMATICALLY! */'; cat ./alloca.in.h; } > alloca.h-h >>> /bin/sh: syntax error at line 1 : `)' unexpected >>> *** Error code 2 >> >> Ouch. Coreutils is built with Automake's silent-rules feature, >> and as I just now discovered, that feature is documented to not >> be portable to POSIX make. NonStop make conforms to POSIX in >> this area but disagrees with GNU make. The simplest fix is to >> disable the silent-rules feature; it doesn't suffice to run >> 'configure --disable-silent-rules'. >=20 > IMO, nonstop is a fringe target, so I am very reluctant to > sacrifice the above default solely to accommodate that system. > I would rather simply encourage people using that system to > install and use GNU make. That, and POSIX is considering standardizing make behavior of nested variable expansion (supported by GNU make, BSD make, SunPro make, and several other make flavors), at which point nonstop make would be the odd man out and would need to be updated to comply with the new standards. 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Content preview: tags 10234 wontfix close 10234 stop (triaging old bugs) Hello, [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.214.177 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.2 MISSING_HEADERS Missing To: header 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (assafgordon[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.214.177 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) tags 10234 wontfix close 10234 stop (triaging old bugs) Hello, On 06/12/11 10:41 AM, Eric Blake wrote: > On 12/06/2011 10:36 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: >> Paul Eggert wrote: >>> >>> On 12/06/11 01:11, Basavaraj B wrote: >>> >>>> )rm -f alloca.h-t alloca.h && { echo '/* DO NOT EDIT! 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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1b4af882-f229-2225-895d-c505965b62b0@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 10/15/18 7:51 AM, Assaf Gordon wrote: >> That, and POSIX is considering standardizing make behavior of nested >> variable expansion > > As such (and with no further follow-up in 6 years), > I'm closing this bug. Thanks. By the way, the problem was fixed at the Automake level, so there was no need to change the POSIX spec for 'make'. See Bug#10237. Also, the effort to change the POSIX spec for 'make' seems to have fizzled out despite not having much objection; see .