From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:13 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10222: 24.0.92; Sentence movement commands make emacs hang Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 12:30:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10222 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 10222@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.132308817317540 (code B ref -1); Mon, 05 Dec 2011 12:30:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2011 12:29:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXfn-0004Yp-M0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:29:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXfi-0004Yd-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:29:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXf6-0000Vm-B6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:28:54 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:33832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXf6-0000Vh-9L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:28:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34866) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXf0-000066-Ar for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:28:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXew-0000V3-EU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:28:42 -0500 Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:36867) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXew-0000Uo-2I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:28:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE84BD232C for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:28:36 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ikM89z6RXGWh for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:28:34 +0100 (CET) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tassilo@member.fsf.org Received: from tsdh.uni-koblenz.de (tsdh.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.67.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C6DFD2328 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:28:34 +0100 (CET) From: Tassilo Horn Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 13:28:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87k46b2oen.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) I've found some strange issue with the sentence movement commands in buffers that have invisible and intangible overlays. Here's a recipe: 1. emacs -Q 2. Eval this function (defun hide-every-2nd-line () (interactive) (while t (next-line 2) (let ((ol (make-overlay (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position)))) (overlay-put ol 'invisible t) (overlay-put ol 'intangible t)))) 3. C-h t (use the tutorial as test buffer) 4. M-x hide-every-2nd-line RET So now we have the TUTORIAL buffer where every second line is invisible and intangible and point is at `point-max'. In this situation, there are two problems with the M-a and M-e. 1. In some situations, M-a/M-e don't move at all. (I think, that's the case, if the sentence start/end is inside a hidden line, but I'm not too sure.) For example, when point is at point-max, I can hit M-a once so that point is at the beginning of the invisible line below the "Please read the file COPYING...". Hitting M-a again has no effect anymore. (BTW: This "M-a/M-e don't move issue" is also present in the bug messages buffer.) 2. At some positions in that file, invoking M-a/M-e will make emacs hang. Try hitting M-e repeatedly beginning at the start of the buffer. After the second M-e, point is after "See end for copying conditions.". Hitting it again makes emacs hang. Basically, that's not a too big issue in interactive use where you can hit C-g, but it caused my emacs to freeze completely when I ran it from a post-command-hook function which moves an overlay overlay using (save-excursion (backward-sentence 1)) as start and (save-excursion (forward-sentence 1)) as end position. Bye, Tassilo In GNU Emacs 24.0.92.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.2.2) of 2011-12-03 on thinkpad Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11102000 configured using `configure '--prefix=3D/usr' '--build=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-g= nu' '--host=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=3D/usr/share/man' '--infodir= =3D/usr/share/info' '--datadir=3D/usr/share' '--sysconfdir=3D/etc' '--local= statedir=3D/var/lib' '--libdir=3D/usr/lib64' '--disable-dependency-tracking= ' '--program-suffix=3D-emacs-24' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info/emacs-24' '--= with-crt-dir=3D/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/../../../../lib64' '-= -with-gameuser=3Dgames' '--without-compress-info' '--without-hesiod' '--wit= hout-kerberos' '--without-kerberos5' '--with-gpm' '--with-dbus' '--with-gnu= tls' '--without-selinux' '--with-sound' '--with-x' '--without-gconf' '--wit= h-gsettings' '--with-xml2' '--without-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--without-wide-= int' '--with-gif' '--with-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '-= -with-xpm' '--with-imagemagick' '--with-xft' '--with-libotf' '--with-m17n-f= lt' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3' 'EBZR_BRANCH=3Dtrunk' 'EBZR_REVNO=3D106589' '= build_alias=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'CC= =3D/usr/bin/clang' 'CFLAGS=3D-march=3Dcore2 -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--a= s-needed'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: de_DE.utf8 value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Message Minor modes in effect: gnus-message-citation-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t TeX-source-correlate-mode: t mml-mode: t yas/global-mode: t yas/minor-mode: t recentf-mode: t anything-dired-mode: Enable anything completion in Dired functions. Bindings affected are C, R, S, H. This is deprecated for Emacs24+ users, use `ac-mode' instead. shell-dirtrack-mode: t global-subword-mode: t subword-mode: t savehist-mode: t show-paren-mode: t window-number-meta-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: =20 =20 =20 =20 SPC i n g SPC=20 =20 d r M-q =20 =20 =20 C-k a n SPC=20 o v e r l y a f y M-q =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 M-q c o m p l e t e l y SPC M-q =20 =20 =20 =20 SPC w h i c h =20 e s M-q =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 C-a C-SPC =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 M-w M-x r e p o r=20 Recent messages: Using try-complete-lisp-symbol Type M-x delete-other-windows to delete the help window. 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highlight-symbol-autoloads paredit-autoloads pastebin-autoloads window-number-autoloads package tabulated-list site-gentoo time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:13 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10222: 24.0.92; Sentence movement commands make emacs hang Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10222 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Tassilo Horn Cc: 10222@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10222-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10222.132309413829454 (code B ref 10222); Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:09:01 +0000 Received: (at 10222) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2011 14:08:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXZE2-0007f1-Aa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:08:58 -0500 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXZE0-0007et-7S for 10222@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:08:57 -0500 Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pB5E8MTP009747; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:08:22 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7ED8759048; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:08:22 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87k46b2oen.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:08:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k46b2oen.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Mon, 05 Dec 2011 13:28:32 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4062=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9286 : core <4062> : streams <708009> : uri <1022187> X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) > (overlay-put ol 'invisible t) > (overlay-put ol 'intangible t)))) While we probably can and maybe should make your test case work better, the use of `intangible' is strongly discouraged, specifically because it's pretty much impossible to make all other commands work "right" in the presence of intangible properties. Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:13 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10222: 24.0.92; Sentence movement commands make emacs hang Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10222 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 10222@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10222-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10222.13230997298754 (code B ref 10222); Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 10222) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2011 15:42:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXagC-0002H9-N4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:42:09 -0500 Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXagA-0002H1-Le for 10222@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:42:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E4FD222B; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:41:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Io+fKZ8SD1tt; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:41:32 +0100 (CET) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tassilo@member.fsf.org Received: from tsdh.uni-koblenz.de (tsdh.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.67.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 976EBD222A; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:41:32 +0100 (CET) From: Tassilo Horn References: <87k46b2oen.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:41:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:08:22 -0500") Message-ID: <87d3c32fh1.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) Stefan Monnier writes: >> (overlay-put ol 'invisible t) >> (overlay-put ol 'intangible t)))) > > While we probably can and maybe should make your test case work > better, the use of `intangible' is strongly discouraged, Then it would be good if the docs stated that. > specifically because it's pretty much impossible to make all other > commands work "right" in the presence of intangible properties. Yes, probably. I've experimented a bit more, and it gets even worse with line-editing commands like kill-line, especially if the intangible overlay starts or ends in the middle of a line... But it seems that there's no sense in making an invisible overlay intangible, anyway, at least I can't find any difference in behavior between invisible and invisible + intangible (except that the problem doesn't appear). The mode that creates those overlays (iedit-mode) seems to do that in order to protect the invisible regions, but you can still accidentally kill an intangible & invisible region as a whole. `read-only' would be the right property to use here, but it seems it's not supported for overlays... Bye, Tassilo From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:13 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10222: 24.0.92; Sentence movement commands make emacs hang Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10222 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Tassilo Horn Cc: 10222@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10222-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10222.132310416715149 (code B ref 10222); Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 10222) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2011 16:56:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXbpl-0003wG-F0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:56:07 -0500 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXbpj-0003w9-Sd for 10222@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:56:05 -0500 Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pB5GtThU030442; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:55:29 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8231959048; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:55:29 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87k46b2oen.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> <87d3c32fh1.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:55:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87d3c32fh1.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:41:30 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4062=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9286 : core <4062> : streams <708045> : uri <1022259> X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) >>> (overlay-put ol 'invisible t) >>> (overlay-put ol 'intangible t)))) >> While we probably can and maybe should make your test case work >> better, the use of `intangible' is strongly discouraged, > Then it would be good if the docs stated that. I've just changed lispref/text.texi to warn against `intangible' properties. > The mode that creates those overlays (iedit-mode) seems to do that in Please report this problem to the author (he can probably just remove the code that puts the `intangible' without changing anything else). While you're add it, mention that he should use define-minor-mode. Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:13 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10222: 24.0.92; Sentence movement commands make emacs hang Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10222 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 10222@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10222-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10222.132311354532121 (code B ref 10222); Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 10222) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2011 19:32:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXeH2-0008M1-Hc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:32:25 -0500 Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXeGz-0008Lt-M9 for 10222@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:32:22 -0500 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA4221791 for <10222@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 14:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:31:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=B8AtJCkBdF29r+W6zo7NDSS01Tw=; b=Ff2eRqeGxAkTGUjXBEZU79eOl63y zjLdckrLEyddegmVw9GcQSsPbY5021YmFPvplBeGRg7N8N+2wwb/5JyrXDZqG/2N J6kOQDNE9sVtUVqg8MvOwZe5B/9NkbliIjKChim5xGj7KPuaIcZ0b3INKC1L71T4 p/PPGYRXVOWT0P8= X-Sasl-enc: I13Wj9sL5Y/rJaudvxqaqZYKdrubD6IUfmThNyK4jWSO 1323113507 Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (91-67-11-43-dynip.superkabel.de [91.67.11.43]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B6D8748250A; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 14:31:46 -0500 (EST) From: Tassilo Horn References: <87k46b2oen.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> <87d3c32fh1.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:31:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:55:29 -0500") Message-ID: <8739cylsrj.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) Stefan Monnier writes: >>>> (overlay-put ol 'invisible t) >>>> (overlay-put ol 'intangible t)))) >>> While we probably can and maybe should make your test case work >>> better, the use of `intangible' is strongly discouraged, >> Then it would be good if the docs stated that. > > I've just changed lispref/text.texi to warn against `intangible' properties. > >> The mode that creates those overlays (iedit-mode) seems to do that in > > Please report this problem to the author (he can probably just remove > the code that puts the `intangible' without changing anything else). > While you're add it, mention that he should use define-minor-mode. I'll do so. Bye, Tassilo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 05 19:01:30 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2011 00:01:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXiTR-0006tv-Cw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:01:30 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXiTO-0006tm-KJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:01:27 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXiSp-0008MA-RY for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:00:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:00:51 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 10222 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) retitle 10222 intangible property and sentence movement severity 10222 minor From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:13 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10222: 24.0.92; Sentence movement commands make emacs hang Resent-From: Johan =?UTF-8?Q?Bockg=C3=A5rd?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10222 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Tassilo Horn Cc: 10222@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Received: via spool by 10222-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10222.132351916413567 (code B ref 10222); Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 10222) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Dec 2011 12:12:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZLnI-0003Wl-0A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:12:44 -0500 Received: from smtprelay-b21.telenor.se ([195.54.99.212]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZLnG-0003Wf-IP for 10222@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:12:43 -0500 Received: from ipb4.telenor.se (ipb4.telenor.se [195.54.127.167]) by smtprelay-b21.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFF1D1EA for <10222@debbugs.gnu.org>; 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Content preview: Tassilo Horn writes: > (defun hide-every-2nd-line () > (interactive) > (while t > (next-line 2) > (let ((ol (make-overlay (line-beginning-position) > (line-end-position)))) > (overlay-put ol 'invisible t) > (overlay-put o [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Tassilo Horn writes: > (defun hide-every-2nd-line () > (interactive) > (while t > (next-line 2) > (let ((ol (make-overlay (line-beginning-position) > (line-end-position)))) > (overlay-put ol 'invisible t) > (overlay-put ol 'intangible t)))) > > 3. C-h t (use the tutorial as test buffer) > 4. M-x hide-every-2nd-line RET > So now we have the TUTORIAL buffer where every second line is invisible > and intangible and point is at `point-max'. In this situation, there > are two problems with the M-a and M-e. > > 1. In some situations, M-a/M-e don't move at all. (I think, that's > the case, if the sentence start/end is inside a hidden line, but > I'm not too sure.) > > For example, when point is at point-max, I can hit M-a once so that > point is at the beginning of the invisible line below the "Please > read the file COPYING...". Hitting M-a again has no effect > anymore. > > (BTW: This "M-a/M-e don't move issue" is also present in the bug > messages buffer.) > > 2. At some positions in that file, invoking M-a/M-e will make emacs > hang. Try hitting M-e repeatedly beginning at the start of the > buffer. After the second M-e, point is after "See end for copying > conditions.". Hitting it again makes emacs hang. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) Testing this recipe in Emacs 29, I don't see any hangs with those commands, but perhaps you need to put point in certain particular places -- or perhaps this has been fixed in the years since it was reported. Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs versions? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 27 12:51:14 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2022 17:51:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56475 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nD8vS-0004al-8X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:51:14 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33306) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nD8vR-0004aK-5B for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:51:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=PCmLFovEZ9ZrZNzYY5macQqxM75DwabdwNMkPdem+LQ=; b=mx7PyiTjTQMplhZ8jiviKcnATe 4VUhiHyjfTCamYS+4VbEZVs4GGAuLd4RENj5NgORy4PdNrrK1EMCgFxMTevMx5GI/4j7Etdvl1fHT PkyRBxBPPZD6FEV00jEjcGpl3wJm9k8ZPgkOYh++3NbZPoMiQBsryoQgcZfMNddOEqTs=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nD8vJ-0000kP-9V for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 18:51:07 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 18:51:04 +0100 Message-Id: <87ee4tkqyf.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #10222 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 10222 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 10222 + moreinfo quit From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:13 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Tassilo Horn Subject: bug#10222: closed (Re: bug#10222: intangible property and sentence movement) Message-ID: References: <877dalue9a.fsf@gnu.org> <87k46b2oen.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 10222 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Reply-To: 10222@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 20:16:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1643314561-10353-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1643314561-10353-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #10222: intangible property and sentence movement which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. 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No, I've tried my recipe from the report but couldn't reproduce neither the "doesn't move anymore" nor the "emacs hangs" issue. I'm therefore closing the report. Thanks, Tassilo ------------=_1643314561-10353-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2011 12:29:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXfn-0004Yp-M0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:29:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXfi-0004Yd-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:29:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXf6-0000Vm-B6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:28:54 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:33832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXf6-0000Vh-9L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:28:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34866) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXf0-000066-Ar for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:28:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXew-0000V3-EU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:28:42 -0500 Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:36867) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RXXew-0000Uo-2I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:28:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE84BD232C for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:28:36 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ikM89z6RXGWh for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:28:34 +0100 (CET) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tassilo@member.fsf.org Received: from tsdh.uni-koblenz.de (tsdh.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.67.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C6DFD2328 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:28:34 +0100 (CET) From: Tassilo Horn To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.92; Sentence movement commands make emacs hang Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 13:28:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87k46b2oen.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) I've found some strange issue with the sentence movement commands in buffers that have invisible and intangible overlays. Here's a recipe: 1. emacs -Q 2. Eval this function (defun hide-every-2nd-line () (interactive) (while t (next-line 2) (let ((ol (make-overlay (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position)))) (overlay-put ol 'invisible t) (overlay-put ol 'intangible t)))) 3. C-h t (use the tutorial as test buffer) 4. M-x hide-every-2nd-line RET So now we have the TUTORIAL buffer where every second line is invisible and intangible and point is at `point-max'. In this situation, there are two problems with the M-a and M-e. 1. In some situations, M-a/M-e don't move at all. (I think, that's the case, if the sentence start/end is inside a hidden line, but I'm not too sure.) For example, when point is at point-max, I can hit M-a once so that point is at the beginning of the invisible line below the "Please read the file COPYING...". Hitting M-a again has no effect anymore. (BTW: This "M-a/M-e don't move issue" is also present in the bug messages buffer.) 2. At some positions in that file, invoking M-a/M-e will make emacs hang. Try hitting M-e repeatedly beginning at the start of the buffer. After the second M-e, point is after "See end for copying conditions.". Hitting it again makes emacs hang. Basically, that's not a too big issue in interactive use where you can hit C-g, but it caused my emacs to freeze completely when I ran it from a post-command-hook function which moves an overlay overlay using (save-excursion (backward-sentence 1)) as start and (save-excursion (forward-sentence 1)) as end position. Bye, Tassilo In GNU Emacs 24.0.92.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.2.2) of 2011-12-03 on thinkpad Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11102000 configured using `configure '--prefix=3D/usr' '--build=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-g= nu' '--host=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=3D/usr/share/man' '--infodir= =3D/usr/share/info' '--datadir=3D/usr/share' '--sysconfdir=3D/etc' '--local= statedir=3D/var/lib' '--libdir=3D/usr/lib64' '--disable-dependency-tracking= ' '--program-suffix=3D-emacs-24' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info/emacs-24' '--= with-crt-dir=3D/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/../../../../lib64' '-= -with-gameuser=3Dgames' '--without-compress-info' '--without-hesiod' '--wit= hout-kerberos' '--without-kerberos5' '--with-gpm' '--with-dbus' '--with-gnu= tls' '--without-selinux' '--with-sound' '--with-x' '--without-gconf' '--wit= h-gsettings' '--with-xml2' '--without-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--without-wide-= int' '--with-gif' '--with-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '-= -with-xpm' '--with-imagemagick' '--with-xft' '--with-libotf' '--with-m17n-f= lt' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3' 'EBZR_BRANCH=3Dtrunk' 'EBZR_REVNO=3D106589' '= build_alias=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'CC= =3D/usr/bin/clang' 'CFLAGS=3D-march=3Dcore2 -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--a= s-needed'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: de_DE.utf8 value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Message Minor modes in effect: gnus-message-citation-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t TeX-source-correlate-mode: t mml-mode: t yas/global-mode: t yas/minor-mode: t recentf-mode: t anything-dired-mode: Enable anything completion in Dired functions. Bindings affected are C, R, S, H. This is deprecated for Emacs24+ users, use `ac-mode' instead. shell-dirtrack-mode: t global-subword-mode: t subword-mode: t savehist-mode: t show-paren-mode: t window-number-meta-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: =20 =20 =20 =20 SPC i n g SPC=20 =20 d r M-q =20 =20 =20 C-k a n SPC=20 o v e r l y a f y M-q =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 M-q c o m p l e t e l y SPC M-q =20 =20 =20 =20 SPC w h i c h =20 e s M-q =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 C-a C-SPC =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 M-w M-x r e p o r=20 Recent messages: Using try-complete-lisp-symbol Type M-x delete-other-windows to delete the help window. 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