From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 03 12:08:55 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2011 17:08:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RWt53-0005st-UK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:08:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RWt51-0005sm-OH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:08:52 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWt4f-0007DX-BD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:08:30 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:51524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWt4f-0007DT-9o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:08:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60421) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWt4e-00010K-5R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:08:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWt4c-000760-WC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:08:28 -0500 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:35328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWt4c-00072g-I5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:08:26 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pB3H8OTb009411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:08:25 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pB3H8NaC002268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:08:24 GMT Received: from abhmt118.oracle.com (abhmt118.oracle.com [141.146.116.70]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id pB3H8INm017019 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 11:08:18 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.48.82) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:08:18 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.92; doc of `window-system-default-frame-alist' Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 09:08:23 -0800 Message-ID: <474F2AB0D5D94C99A1E4B285077B3CC6@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acyx3ioGuSAUW7e7RHCoibJB4DgfsQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4EDA5789.007B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) The variable's value is not described. All we say is that it is an alist that somehow has to do with frame parameters. Please document the alist entries: what is the form of the KEY of an entry? the VALUE? In particular, what values are possible for the KEY? In Emacs 23, the doc string was more helpful. It said this: "Alist of window-system dependent default frame parameters. You can set this in your init file; for example, ;; Disable menubar and toolbar on the console, but enable them under X. (setq window-system-default-frame-alist '((x (menu-bar-lines . 1) (tool-bar-lines . 1)) (nil (menu-bar-lines . 0) (tool-bar-lines . 0)))) Parameters specified here supersede the values given in `default-frame-alist'." But even that begs the question: What are `x' and `nil' here? What are the possible values for an alist entry KEY? Also, in Emacs 23 we explicitly suggest that you use this in your init file. In Emacs 24 that has been removed. Does this mean that this is no longer appropriate? If so, consider mentioning this user-behavior change in NEWS: what was effectively a user option (per the doc suggestion) is no longer such. Or if this is still intended as something for a user's init file, then please make it a proper user option (defcustom). In GNU Emacs 24.0.92.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-11-30 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-2.10.1/include --ldflags -LD:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-2.10.1/lib' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 06 10:59:45 2012 Received: (at 10206) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2012 15:59:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57372 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RuQyj-000830-3B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:59:45 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:47551 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RuQya-00082l-UT for 10206@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:59:40 -0500 Received: from bb121-7-229-69.singnet.com.sg ([121.7.229.69]:58922 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RuQxl-0006WK-KX; Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:58:42 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#10206: 24.0.92; doc of `window-system-default-frame-alist' References: <474F2AB0D5D94C99A1E4B285077B3CC6@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:58:33 +0800 In-Reply-To: <474F2AB0D5D94C99A1E4B285077B3CC6@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 3 Dec 2011 09:08:23 -0800") Message-ID: <87sjiot0ly.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10206 Cc: 10206@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) "Drew Adams" writes: > The variable's value is not described. All we say is that it is an > alist that somehow has to do with frame parameters. This was fixed recently; closing. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 06 10:59:48 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2012 15:59:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57375 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RuQyq-00083M-D8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:59:48 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:47558 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RuQyp-00083G-CK for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:59:47 -0500 Received: from bb121-7-229-69.singnet.com.sg ([121.7.229.69]:58923 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RuQy0-0006X9-5X for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:58:56 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 10206 Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:58:45 +0800 Message-ID: <87d39s3qdm.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) close 10206 thanks From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:17:33 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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