From unknown Wed Jun 18 00:19:14 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#10177 <10177@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#10177 <10177@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: [Improvement] Hello! Can split console and frontend ? Reply-To: bug#10177 <10177@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 07:19:14 +0000 retitle 10177 [Improvement] Hello! Can split console and frontend ? reassign 10177 emacs submitter 10177 James Chyn severity 10177 wishlist tag 10177 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 30 21:19:24 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2011 02:19:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVwF9-0000TW-Hv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:19:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVw91-0000KN-Bf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:13:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVw8u-0003GN-8a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:12:57 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, PLING_QUERY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:34753) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVw8u-0003GH-70 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:12:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVw8t-0004bN-1N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:12:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVw8s-0003Fo-40 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:12:55 -0500 Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:61492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVw8r-0003Fi-Si for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:12:54 -0500 Received: by iaqq3 with SMTP id q3so2089422iaq.0 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:12:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=G4EJbSivZCCXJVGqOS55X67uBPv+BQFAC1YlarqkWRE=; b=l8X939amEBeeLoTdYwYjibO3sRAXogssE2Z2EO9nvXEQu+CrRyAEafriSWN0/kbQ5j JUdagLGIeAbGKViFydCbPkVBF4dxmXt5uSjbCt3VXCJlGTltV0UzospmUJZ8zEqMeaQN Jf0RUO1EiolEZq02XuJIJ/6uRxfyS2NZ7o/pU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.136.196 with SMTP id v4mr6023878ict.3.1322705572633; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.53.138 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:12:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:12:52 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: [Improvement] Hello! Can split console and frontend ? From: James Chyn To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:19:21 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) Hello, I have a suggestion: can emacs released console only and frontend (if you like, gtk3 for example) only individually? Reason: I formerly use vim, and I found that vim is only a console program, but there is 2 frontend for it: gvim (gtk+) and vim-qt (qt). I think this is great since the frontend is optimal. If I use vim in KDE, I just install vim-qt and vim (console), no need to install GTK+ just for an application specifically. However, if I install emacs on KDE, gtk+ is a must, which is not convinient. In fact, many programs split their console program and frontend individually, such as mplayer, vim, etc. Hope you would consider my suggestion. James Chyn From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 30 21:43:06 2011 Received: (at 10177) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2011 02:43:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVwc5-00010u-GD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:43:05 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVwc4-00010o-GM for 10177@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:43:04 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RVwbx-0004d9-Ci; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:42:57 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: James Chyn Subject: Re: bug#10177: [Improvement] Hello! Can split console and frontend ? References: X-Spook: kibo gamma jihad spy Craig Livingstone UFO fundamentalist X-Ran: pS'b,JSFrHH"sBWfFdi$>d_`9r7b!+&".w.lI=^['XDHA|FqdKe>k9XBD{6/v|,pYbUO\k X-Hue: magenta X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:42:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: (James Chyn's message of "Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:12:52 +0800") Message-ID: <07zkfd107i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10177 Cc: 10177@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) James Chyn wrote: > However, if I install emacs on KDE, gtk+ is a must, which is not > convinient. Emacs does not require Gtk+. The default Emacs package provided by your distribution might, but that is a different matter. For example, on Debian: emacs23 = Emacs using Gtk+ emacs23-lucid = Emacs using Lucid toolkit emacs23-nox = Emacs without X support You can install whichever of those you prefer. I think what you are calling a "frontend" would be called a "toolkit" in Emacs-speak. If you build Emacs from source yourself, you can choose which toolkit you want to use, including none at all (I guess this is your "console" version). There is no QT version, but there are non-Gtk versions. 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