From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:55:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10136: Can't view some strange characters in some of the man pages Resent-From: Harold Raulston Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 18:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10136 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 10136@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.132224448221074 (code B ref -1); Fri, 25 Nov 2011 18:09:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2011 18:08:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU0Bs-0005TX-7E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:08:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTtOu-0002rR-UN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:53:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTtNL-0007YR-Sz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:51:24 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,BODY_8BITS, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:42462) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTtNL-0007YN-RT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:51:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:49997) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTtNK-0001GO-S0 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:51:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTtNJ-0007Y3-R4 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:51:22 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f47.google.com ([209.85.210.47]:40654) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTtNJ-0007Xt-ML for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:51:21 -0500 Received: by pzk1 with SMTP id 1so983564pzk.6 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:51:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ZcgXz9Xhg1waaNNpXqd+3R+yYK2ATgETjiZ2R+5//aA=; b=qqe6r/lGZ/7mNbjJPoenfryS1aOYhQZa1+iNi0EDRNhr9lDEHhxYmZelAJD8TxsaWh Upt6Y7AmknM+DSi9Sucys40bwAZOwyAhvBOS6jsXbn51wfglqk7vd2jjzlc/eFDdSDO0 2DZphUlfEgHwUL7FP5ZSx9L2RB8pjmU42B3sU= Received: by 10.68.38.68 with SMTP id e4mr25999815pbk.126.1322218280075; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:51:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.48.3 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:50:39 -0800 (PST) From: Harold Raulston Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:50:39 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52161cfe63fc004b28cee31 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:07:58 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) --bcaec52161cfe63fc004b28cee31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Could you tell me what encoding I need to use to view your man pages? I've tried Unicode, Western, Western ISO, but still get some unreadable characters in the EXAMPLES (I've just looked at the find and du commands so far): =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2 linuxcommand find1 can't display re= ad BTW, I'm using Win7 Pro English, IE9. All latest updates. I have the same problem in Chrome... Thx, Harold --bcaec52161cfe63fc004b28cee31 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
=C2=A0
Could you tell me what encoding I need= to use to view your man pages?=C2=A0

I've tried Unicode= , Western, Western ISO, but still get some unreadable characters in the EXA= MPLES (I've just looked at the find and du commands so far):
=C3=A2=E2=82=AC= =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2 linuxcommand find1 can't display read
BTW, I'm using Win7 Pro English, IE9. All latest updates= .
I have the same problem in Chrome...
=C2=A0
Thx,
Harold
=C2=A0
--bcaec52161cfe63fc004b28cee31-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:55:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10136: Can't view some strange characters in some of the man pages References: Resent-From: "Alan Curry" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 21:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10136 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: hr0201@gmail.com (Harold Raulston) Cc: 10136@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10136-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10136.132225626412062 (code B ref 10136); Fri, 25 Nov 2011 21:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 10136) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2011 21:24:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU3Fw-00038V-9M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:24:24 -0500 Received: from c-67-162-90-113.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([67.162.90.113] helo=kosh.dhis.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU3Fu-00038M-73 for 10136@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:24:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 6630 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Nov 2011 21:22:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20111125212242.6629.qmail@kosh.dhis.org> From: "Alan Curry" Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:22:42 -0500 (GMT+5) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Harold Raulston writes: > > Hi, > > Could you tell me what encoding I need to use to view your man pages? > > I've tried Unicode, Western, Western ISO, but still get some unreadable > characters in the EXAMPLES (I've just looked at the find and du commands so > far): > > =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2 linuxcommand find1 can't display re= > ad > > BTW, I'm using Win7 Pro English, IE9. All latest updates. > I have the same problem in Chrome... man pages are read with the man program. HTML is Not The Way. [c3 a2 e2 82 ac c3 a2 e2 82 ac e2 84 a2] is what you get when you start with U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK in UTF8, then misinterpret it as windows-1252 and convert it to UTF8 again. We were *so* unfortunate when we didn't have all these extra kinds of quotation marks. -- Alan Curry From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:55:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10136: Can't view some strange characters in some of the man pages Resent-From: Bob Proulx Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10136 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Harold Raulston , 10136@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10136-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10136.132225871815721 (code B ref 10136); Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 10136) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2011 22:05:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU3tW-00045W-Lx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:05:18 -0500 Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU3tT-00045O-Sw for 10136@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:05:17 -0500 Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC92A211D2; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:03:35 -0700 (MST) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E22D12DCD0; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:03:35 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:03:35 -0700 From: Bob Proulx Message-ID: <20111125220335.GA15704@hysteria.proulx.com> References: <20111125212242.6629.qmail@kosh.dhis.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111125212242.6629.qmail@kosh.dhis.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Alan Curry wrote: > Harold Raulston writes: > > Could you tell me what encoding I need to use to view your man pages? > >=20 > > I've tried Unicode, Western, Western ISO, but still get some unreadab= le > > characters in the EXAMPLES (I've just looked at the find and du comma= nds so > > far): > >=20 > > =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2 linuxcommand find1 can't disp= lay read I do not see any unicode characters in the man page even with LC_ALL set to en_US.UTF-8. > > BTW, I'm using Win7 Pro English, IE9. All latest updates. > > I have the same problem in Chrome... >=20 > man pages are read with the man program. HTML is Not The Way. Agreed. Harold, you said IE9 in the same message talking about man pages. This creates confusion. Man pages are read with the man program. $ man du But if you are using the web browser then it sounds like you are looking at a web page instead? If that is true then the web page you are looking at will be the problem. Harold, Please tell us what web page URL to which you are referering. Documentation for the coreutils is available on the web here: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/ All of those pages look okay to me. For 'du' here is the relevant documentation page on the web. http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/du-invocation.ht= ml#du-invocation And of course the info pages should be installed on your system. You can access them using the 'info' command. $ info coreutils > [c3 a2 e2 82 ac c3 a2 e2 82 ac e2 84 a2] is what you get when you start= with > U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK in UTF8, then misinterpret it as > windows-1252 and convert it to UTF8 again. Good observation. > We were *so* unfortunate when we didn't have all these extra kinds of > quotation marks. /me shakes head, People do like eye candy. Bob From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 25 17:09:05 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2011 22:09:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU3xB-0004Az-58 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:09:05 -0500 Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU3x9-0004As-Eh for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:09:03 -0500 Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24347211D2 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:07:24 -0700 (MST) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E87EE2DCD0; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:07:23 -0700 (MST) From: Bob Proulx To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: tagging 10136 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:07:23 -0700 User-Agent: devscripts bts/2.11.2 Message-ID: <1322258843-2775-bts-bob@proulx.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) tags 10136 + moreinfo thanks From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:55:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10136: Can't view some strange characters in some of the man pages Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10136 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Alan Curry Cc: 10136@debbugs.gnu.org, Harold Raulston Received: via spool by 10136-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10136.132230812125892 (code B ref 10136); Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 10136) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2011 11:48:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RUGkL-0006jZ-Ap for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 06:48:41 -0500 Received: from mail1.vodafone.ie ([213.233.128.43]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RUGkI-0006jQ-9P for 10136@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 06:48:39 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAFLR0E5daxW8/2dsb2JhbAAMOBatYQEBAQMBMgFGBQsLDQEKCRYPCQMCAQIBRQYNAQcBAQWHfAi2AIpiBJoqjCs Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.79]) ([93.107.21.188]) by mail1.vodafone.ie with ESMTP; 26 Nov 2011 11:46:54 +0000 Message-ID: <4ED0D1AE.8050900@draigBrady.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:46:54 +0000 From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110816 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20111125212242.6629.qmail@kosh.dhis.org> In-Reply-To: <20111125212242.6629.qmail@kosh.dhis.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) tags 10136 + notabug close 10136 You didn't give the source of this mangled man page, so I'm closing this as it's not related to coreutils. More notes below. On 11/25/2011 09:22 PM, Alan Curry wrote: > Harold Raulston writes: >> >> Hi, >> >> Could you tell me what encoding I need to use to view your man pages? >> >> I've tried Unicode, Western, Western ISO, but still get some unreadable >> characters in the EXAMPLES (I've just looked at the find and du commands so >> far): >> >> =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2 linuxcommand find1 can't display re= >> ad >> >> BTW, I'm using Win7 Pro English, IE9. All latest updates. >> I have the same problem in Chrome... > > man pages are read with the man program. HTML is Not The Way. > > [c3 a2 e2 82 ac c3 a2 e2 82 ac e2 84 a2] is what you get when you start with > U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK in UTF8, then misinterpret it as > windows-1252 and convert it to UTF8 again. This is a common manglement. Reversing the process is a little tricky: http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/unicode_utils/ > We were *so* unfortunate when we didn't have all these extra kinds of > quotation marks. Yes, they are a common source of confusion: http://www2.cs.sfu.ca/~ggbaker/reference/characters/ cheers, Pádraig. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 30 04:26:35 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2012 08:26:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57081 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T705B-0006Ev-9W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:26:34 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:49878) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T7058-0006Em-DT for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:26:31 -0400 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3736A20E44 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web5.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.215]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:25:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=yUfJ133wNLWaQHb3TYv5eEzNLWg=; b=j7sht89VPoQ6n8cpm1RMl2G9jUfv pyYxPKkUJYRA2EhWATPUZkMDzmXVaYraeUOnp4iT/Gkm19pn1GV9/9WBYMVnH5em dtt9dHA2MbMQNi6dQGY96zzg7+8L4/TWcuBS/fCNpVHzh8/uSJYntoGdubhVMq/r 09JnsDnZj5MukA4= Received: by web5.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id DE71E4C0212; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:25:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1346315120.10703.140661121426477.2AFE53D5@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: 4nXWxMLkgjDvdikikEcOj9pbHgqp6intQUQ9wPX89h/O 1346315120 From: era eriksson To: control@debbugs.gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Subject: Still more bug maintenance Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 11:25:20 +0300 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) tags 6970 + moreinfo tags 7000 + notabug tags 7731 + moreinfo tags 8294 + moreinfo close 8294 tags 10136 + notabug close 10136 tags 10456 + moreinfo tags 10799 + moreinfo tags 10900 + moreinfo tags 11316 + moreinfo tags 11696 + notabug close 11696 tags 11949 + moreinfo thanks /* era */ -- If this were a real .signature, it would suck less. Well, maybe not.