From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:17:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10130: 24.0.91; eldoc error DOC-24.0.91.1 not found Resent-From: Thierry Volpiatto Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10130 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 10130@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.1322169109984 (code B ref -1); Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:12:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2011 21:11:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTgaC-0000Fo-TR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:11:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTgaA-0000Fe-0E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:11:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTgYc-00023g-UX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:10:12 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:39385) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTgYc-00023c-RW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:10:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38405) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTgYa-0006GK-Vb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:10:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTgYY-000229-EJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:10:08 -0500 Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:50577) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTgYY-00020g-1T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:10:06 -0500 Received: by bke17 with SMTP id 17so3950711bke.0 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=KqsgpXujDQWQ393T95GnbWSlkS659EyNkJi6M6jn4NY=; b=mdpWwxkuw6cRj+CZ+6ul5PGQPTWFrxqb2n9mE0/qnwaFW0VzCW7PZv9eFt/fE2bnLu xw75i2FsOJjuAfUiwcqzQE5tuqosoxUXnU7/dkhG8WdbhchoSbPWx4fh5dxTIAbTSKds 0b8l7MIcDSoA4xTnt+n7OzAbx8HzrY4WFwr3w= Received: by 10.205.135.131 with SMTP id ig3mr17370440bkc.75.1322169004705; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from thierry-MM061 (3.211.85.79.rev.sfr.net. [79.85.211.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z3sm26430225faf.13.2011.11.24.13.10.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Thierry Volpiatto Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:09:59 +0100 Message-ID: <8762i9grbs.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) Hi, I have an eldoc error on functions: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- eldoc error: (error Cannot open doc string file "/usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.91/etc/DOC-24.0.91.1") --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I have in ../etc a file named DOC-24.0.91.3 Creating a symlink to DOC-24.0.91.1 workaround the problem. What is this file for exactly? In GNU Emacs 24.0.91.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2011-11-22 on thierry-MM061 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11004000 configured using `configure '--with-x-toolkit=lucid' '--without-gconf' '--without-gsettings'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: TeX-PDF-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t savehist-mode: t minibuffer-depth-indicate-mode: t eldoc-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t anything-completion-mode: t anything-dired-mode: Enable anything completion in Dired functions. Bindings affected are C, R, S, H. This is deprecated for Emacs24+ users, use `ac-mode' instead. shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-f / s u d o : : u s l o s h e m 2 4 M-< M-> C-x k M-x r e p o r t Recent messages: Saving file /home/thierry/.newsrc... Wrote /home/thierry/.newsrc Saving /home/thierry/.newsrc.eld... Saving file /home/thierry/.newsrc.eld... Wrote /home/thierry/.newsrc.eld Saving /home/thierry/.newsrc.eld...done Mark set [9 times] Mark set [2 times] [2 times] Load-path shadows: None found. 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Subject: bug#10130: 24.0.91; eldoc error DOC-24.0.91.1 not found Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10130 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Thierry Volpiatto Cc: 10130@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10130-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10130.132217911315964 (code B ref 10130); Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 10130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2011 23:58:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTjBZ-00049R-Ii for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 18:58:33 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTjBX-00049I-Qw for 10130@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 18:58:32 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTjA1-0000iw-E4; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 18:56:57 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <8762i9grbs.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: brigand ANDVT doctrine Defcon CID Zachawi offensive X-Ran: B{tZ*jkG79NxB+hP&fbw?Qa6_0eoqp0el1m=l8gH|Uak@.|e@;};G:"V;bQP+AQs|}ggk= X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 18:56:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8762i9grbs.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:09:59 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > I have in ../etc a file named DOC-24.0.91.3 > Creating a symlink to DOC-24.0.91.1 workaround the problem. > > What is this file for exactly? It's the documentation for preloaded things. It is build-specific. If you are running 24.0.91.1 (and according to the text below, you are) and do not have a DOC-24.0.91.1 file, then your build is incomplete, or perhaps a part got removed by mistake. Unless you can demonstrate a recipe to reproduce this state, I don't think this is an Emacs bug. > In GNU Emacs 24.0.91.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:17:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10130: 24.0.91; eldoc error DOC-24.0.91.1 not found Resent-From: Thierry Volpiatto Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10130 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Glenn Morris Cc: 10130@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10130-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10130.132219961614686 (code B ref 10130); Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 10130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2011 05:40:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RToWE-0003oc-3f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:40:14 -0500 Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RToW6-0003oP-Br for 10130@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:40:08 -0500 Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so3532626bkb.3 for <10130@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:38:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=+5uaN/XYM5B/DqkRNlVODxmY082oX7e1ol+3mndFRpk=; b=oL3B86heU5I/jrHKhSxKLtOqk2lLjZqJlWULtdJWEwsownl+1eb3Npt/JTConK18Og 2h4esDJvH+qZJLKAhVuA7sGUoFMBReZSgle7QM3QgPBQNM/6Wiy7DoqqydmU7ILTKl88 y3xjisKGibmu6ossjPFPPm+E2P7ryWeYTUi4Y= Received: by 10.204.149.215 with SMTP id u23mr32860227bkv.105.1322199510571; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:38:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from thierry-MM061 (3.211.85.79.rev.sfr.net. [79.85.211.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z3sm27588431faf.13.2011.11.24.21.38.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:38:29 -0800 (PST) From: Thierry Volpiatto References: <8762i9grbs.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:38:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 24 Nov 2011 18:56:57 -0500") Message-ID: <877h2oahim.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) Glenn Morris writes: > Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > >> I have in ../etc a file named DOC-24.0.91.3 >> Creating a symlink to DOC-24.0.91.1 workaround the problem. >> >> What is this file for exactly? > > It's the documentation for preloaded things. It is build-specific. > If you are running 24.0.91.1 (and according to the text below, you are) > and do not have a DOC-24.0.91.1 file, then your build is incomplete, or > perhaps a part got removed by mistake. I build emacs in "~/tmp/emacs-build" (not source directory): mkdir ~/tmp/emacs-build cd ~/tmp/emacs-build ~/download/emacs-bzr/trunk/configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --without-gconf --without-gsettings Here what i have in "~/tmp/emacs-build/etc" once finished: -rw-rw-r-- 1 thierry thierry 2503273 2011-11-24 19:04 DOC -rw-rw-r-- 1 thierry thierry 2503126 2011-11-22 10:06 DOC-24.0.91.1 -rw-rw-r-- 1 thierry thierry 2503156 2011-11-23 19:25 DOC-24.0.91.2 -rw-rw-r-- 1 thierry thierry 2503273 2011-11-24 19:04 DOC-24.0.91.3 When i run make install, more precisely: sudo make install bindir=/usr/local/sbin/emacs-24.0.91 infodir=/usr/local/share/info-24.0.91 I have only DOC-24.0.91.3 in etc. > Unless you can demonstrate a recipe to reproduce this state, I don't > think this is an Emacs bug. Well this happened with a simple make after updating bzr repo, i will try to rebuild again to see what happen. Thanks. -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:17:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10130: 24.0.91; eldoc error DOC-24.0.91.1 not found In-Reply-To: <8762i9grbs.fsf@gmail.com> Resent-From: Thierry Volpiatto Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10130 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: 10130@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.132220274919687 (code B ref -1); Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:33:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2011 06:32:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTpKl-00057S-BJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:32:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTpKj-00057L-3q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:32:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTpJB-00067b-5W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:30:49 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:48565) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTpJB-00067W-3z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:30:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48296) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTpJA-0005iT-7i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:30:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTpJ9-00067L-5e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:30:48 -0500 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:59368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTpJ8-00066x-Nt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:30:47 -0500 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTpJ1-0004r5-U3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:30:39 +0100 Received: from 3.211.85.79.rev.sfr.net ([79.85.211.3]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:30:39 +0100 Received: from thierry.volpiatto by 3.211.85.79.rev.sfr.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:30:39 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Thierry Volpiatto Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:30:26 +0100 Lines: 45 Message-ID: <871usw7lz1.fsf@gmail.com> References: <8762i9grbs.fsf@gmail.com> <877h2oahim.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 3.211.85.79.rev.sfr.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+dXe/kyGOPOd35JsBEHi1nbYr9s= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Thierry Volpiatto writes: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> Thierry Volpiatto wrote: >> >>> I have in ../etc a file named DOC-24.0.91.3 >>> Creating a symlink to DOC-24.0.91.1 workaround the problem. >>> >>> What is this file for exactly? >> >> It's the documentation for preloaded things. It is build-specific. >> If you are running 24.0.91.1 (and according to the text below, you are) >> and do not have a DOC-24.0.91.1 file, then your build is incomplete, or >> perhaps a part got removed by mistake. > I build emacs in "~/tmp/emacs-build" (not source directory): > mkdir ~/tmp/emacs-build > cd ~/tmp/emacs-build > ~/download/emacs-bzr/trunk/configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --without-gconf --without-gsettings > > Here what i have in "~/tmp/emacs-build/etc" once finished: > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 thierry thierry 2503273 2011-11-24 19:04 DOC > -rw-rw-r-- 1 thierry thierry 2503126 2011-11-22 10:06 DOC-24.0.91.1 > -rw-rw-r-- 1 thierry thierry 2503156 2011-11-23 19:25 DOC-24.0.91.2 > -rw-rw-r-- 1 thierry thierry 2503273 2011-11-24 19:04 DOC-24.0.91.3 > > When i run make install, more precisely: > sudo make install bindir=/usr/local/sbin/emacs-24.0.91 infodir=/usr/local/share/info-24.0.91 > > I have only DOC-24.0.91.3 in etc. > >> Unless you can demonstrate a recipe to reproduce this state, I don't >> think this is an Emacs bug. > Well this happened with a simple make after updating bzr repo, i will > try to rebuild again to see what happen. After doing a complete rebuild (make distclean+reconfiguring+make bootstrap) I have again the good version (DOC-24.0.91.1) of the file. So don't know what happen, sorry for the noise. -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:17:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10130: 24.0.91; eldoc error DOC-24.0.91.1 not found Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 08:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10130 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Thierry Volpiatto Cc: 10130@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 10130-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10130.132221025330954 (code B ref 10130); Fri, 25 Nov 2011 08:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 10130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2011 08:37:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTrHp-00083D-E4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 03:37:33 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTrHn-000834-2y for 10130@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 03:37:32 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LV700300JSGGA00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 10130@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:35:53 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.50.247]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LV700358JVS0XD0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:35:53 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:35:55 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <8762i9grbs.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83pqgg8uqc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8762i9grbs.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > From: Thierry Volpiatto > Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:09:59 +0100 > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > eldoc error: (error Cannot open doc string file > "/usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.91/etc/DOC-24.0.91.1") > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > I have in ../etc a file named DOC-24.0.91.3 > Creating a symlink to DOC-24.0.91.1 workaround the problem. > > What is this file for exactly? When you build Emacs, the build creates 2 hard links to the same binary: `emacs' and `emacs-NN.MM.XX.YY'. It does the same with the DOC file, because, as Glenn explained, each build should have its matching DOC file. Building another binary will break the link of `emacs' to the binary and link it to the newer binary, and will also make another hard link of the form `emacs-NN.MM.XX.YY' by incrementing the YY part. After rebuilding Emacs several times, you will have several `emacs-NN.MM.XX.YY' binaries and `emacs' that is linked to one of them, normally the one with the largest YY part. The same is true for the DOC file. This allows you to run previously built binaries by invoking one of the `emacs-NN.MM.XX.YY' programs, and the DOC files that go with each one of them will then be available for Emacs to use. IOW, this is a feature (and quite a useful one, e.g., when you are faced with a recently introduced bug and want to know which build introduced it). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 25 13:23:05 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2011 18:23:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU0QS-0005r4-GD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:23:04 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU0QR-0005qy-Df for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:23:03 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RU0Oq-0005ZJ-VG for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:21:25 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:21:24 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 10130 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) tag 10130 notabug close 10130 From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:17:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10130: 24.0.91; eldoc error DOC-24.0.91.1 not found Resent-From: Thierry Volpiatto Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 18:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10130 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 10130@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10130-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10130.132224555622823 (code B ref 10130); Fri, 25 Nov 2011 18:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 10130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2011 18:25:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU0TE-0005w4-Iq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:25:56 -0500 Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RU0TC-0005vu-Ge for 10130@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:25:55 -0500 Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so4385889bkb.3 for <10130@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:24:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Xpp0SQ5JAoES+B6vNLnFHtflqOiK3+U5jHnUzFDWzO0=; b=cmsBW7dPm3xQFZ8v1ZjMG/aKPElggZOQOtlznmdybB0lP3+ZYx6VoVj11oQPKvqU3S 5JMxXasTHHlhrJBOEJpE0f9u3ezdmJQf2aCR/SyAot/52JOGteQuEeTkaPbfe6eK3XMx yOExJoZBgzaG1Ke9P+07pi2EV87Gy5bTmxMgc= Received: by 10.204.157.156 with SMTP id b28mr34301602bkx.133.1322245455383; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:24:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from thierry-MM061 (3.211.85.79.rev.sfr.net. [79.85.211.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l26sm29292947fad.17.2011.11.25.10.24.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:24:13 -0800 (PST) From: Thierry Volpiatto References: <8762i9grbs.fsf@gmail.com> <83pqgg8uqc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 19:24:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83pqgg8uqc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:35:55 +0200") Message-ID: <87vcq8njqs.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Thierry Volpiatto >> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:09:59 +0100 >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> eldoc error: (error Cannot open doc string file >> "/usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.91/etc/DOC-24.0.91.1") >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> >> I have in ../etc a file named DOC-24.0.91.3 >> Creating a symlink to DOC-24.0.91.1 workaround the problem. >> >> What is this file for exactly? > > When you build Emacs, the build creates 2 hard links to the same > binary: `emacs' and `emacs-NN.MM.XX.YY'. It does the same with the > DOC file, because, as Glenn explained, each build should have its > matching DOC file. Building another binary will break the link of > `emacs' to the binary and link it to the newer binary, and will also > make another hard link of the form `emacs-NN.MM.XX.YY' by incrementing > the YY part. > > After rebuilding Emacs several times, you will have several > `emacs-NN.MM.XX.YY' binaries and `emacs' that is linked to one of > them, normally the one with the largest YY part. The same is true for > the DOC file. > > This allows you to run previously built binaries by invoking one of > the `emacs-NN.MM.XX.YY' programs, and the DOC files that go with each > one of them will then be available for Emacs to use. > > IOW, this is a feature (and quite a useful one, e.g., when you are > faced with a recently introduced bug and want to know which build > introduced it). Thank you very much for this explanation Eli. -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997