From unknown Tue Jun 17 21:54:06 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#10120 <10120@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#10120 <10120@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.91; frame-visible-p returns t, but frame not visible/iconified Reply-To: bug#10120 <10120@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 04:54:06 +0000 retitle 10120 24.0.91; frame-visible-p returns t, but frame not visible/ico= nified reassign 10120 emacs submitter 10120 "Drew Adams" severity 10120 normal tag 10120 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 23 12:45:37 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2011 17:45:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTGt6-0001zM-GU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:45:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTGt4-0001zF-Kp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:45:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTGrf-0004AZ-6X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:44:08 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:45447) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTGrf-0004AV-54 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:44:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41720) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTGre-0007zv-6G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:44:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTGrc-0004A6-Su for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:44:06 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:22960) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RTGrc-00049l-Bo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:44:04 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pANHi1WA032525 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:44:02 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pANHi0Kx026778 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:44:01 GMT Received: from abhmt104.oracle.com (abhmt104.oracle.com [141.146.116.56]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id pANHhtQO002309 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:43:55 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.44.3) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:43:55 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.91; frame-visible-p returns t, but frame not visible/iconified Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:43:55 -0800 Message-ID: <350FA36A6D354CD19E1119F1EF3E74C4@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcyqB3hz4r1NwWULQjqku4bVFXJRTw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4ECD30E2.00E4,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Probably not very useful as is - sorry about that. Take this as an FYI, in case you get further, related reports. With my setup (not with emacs -Q), at some point I got into a state where there was a buffer associated with a window in a frame, and that frame was neither visible anywhere nor iconified. It was not listed in the Windows task bar, which lists each frame. Yet Emacs thought that that the frame was visible (e.g. frame-visible-p returned t). The buffer existed and was live, but it was displayed in no visible or iconified window/frame anywhere. Emacs functions such as raise-frame and select-frame-set-input-focus returned normally, as if they worked, and the latter even deselected the current frame (unhighlighted the title bar and borders) as if it had selected another frame. But the target frame was not visible anywhere (and not just off-screen, as determined by the Windows task-bar apps list). Here are some things I noted when in the debugger, in case it helps: * display-buffer(# t) * pop-to-buffer(# t nil) * switch-to-buffer-other-frame(#) Then: * display-buffer--maybe-same-window(# ((inhibit-same-window . t))) returned nil. Then: * get-buffer-window-list(# nomini 0) returned (#) Then: * display-buffer-record-window(reuse # #) returned nil. Then: * window-parameter(# quit-restore) returned nil. Note that this window was visible nowhere. Then: * frame-visible-p(#) returned t, even though the frame is not visible anywhere and is not in the list of frames in the Windows task bar. * window-frame(#) returned #. * window--display-buffer-1(#) Then: * raise-frame(#) returned nil. Then: * select-window(#) returned #. So display-buffer-reuse-window, and hence display-buffer, returned #. And pop-to-buffer, and hence switch-to-buffer-other-frame, returned buffer #. HTH in some way (ring a bell?). Sorry I don't have more info. In GNU Emacs 24.0.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-11-21 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-2.10.1/include --ldflags -LD:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-2.10.1/lib' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 23 15:13:41 2011 Received: (at 10120) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2011 20:13:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJCO-00069U-OM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:13:41 -0500 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJCM-00069N-GM for 10120@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:13:40 -0500 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pANKC6u8022278; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:12:07 -0500 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C917DB4043; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:12:06 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#10120: 24.0.91; frame-visible-p returns t, but frame not visible/iconified Message-ID: References: <350FA36A6D354CD19E1119F1EF3E74C4@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:12:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: <350FA36A6D354CD19E1119F1EF3E74C4@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:43:55 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered GEN_SPAM_FEATRE=0.2, RV4050=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9286 : core <4050> : streams <704169> : uri <1014153> X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10120 Cc: 10120@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) > Yet Emacs thought that that the frame was visible (e.g. frame-visible-p > returned t). The buffer existed and was live, but it was displayed in > no visible or iconified window/frame anywhere. What does (frame-terminal ) return? Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 23 15:33:35 2011 Received: (at 10120) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2011 20:33:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJVf-0006e3-Je for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:33:35 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTJVd-0006dw-VG for 10120@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:33:34 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pANKW5mD013629 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:32:05 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pANKW3pj007076 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:32:04 GMT Received: from abhmt115.oracle.com (abhmt115.oracle.com [141.146.116.67]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id pANKVwXO028474; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:31:58 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.44.3) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:31:57 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Stefan Monnier'" References: <350FA36A6D354CD19E1119F1EF3E74C4@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: bug#10120: 24.0.91; frame-visible-p returns t, but frame not visible/iconified Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:31:57 -0800 Message-ID: <5267D08F7F1C44448D90A2A4D99B754A@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcyqHDV7SEhp4F1TRDq9k+Zf6enUEgAAlZLA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4ECD5846.0041,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10120 Cc: 10120@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) > > Yet Emacs thought that that the frame was visible (e.g. > > frame-visible-p returned t). The buffer existed and was > > live, but it was displayed in no visible or iconified > > window/frame anywhere. > > What does (frame-terminal ) return? I'm sorry, I no longer have the session. I tried to get some info by stepping through the debugger, but didn't think of evaling `frame-terminal'. If I come across this symptom again I'll find that out. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 07 20:18:24 2013 Received: (at 10120-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2013 01:18:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42670 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3cbg-0007Rq-2d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:18:24 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:54483) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3cbe-0007Rj-7f for 10120-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:18:22 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3cbc-00076U-MV; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:18:20 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 10120-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#10120: 24.0.91; frame-visible-p returns t, but frame not visible/iconified References: <350FA36A6D354CD19E1119F1EF3E74C4@us.oracle.com> <5267D08F7F1C44448D90A2A4D99B754A@us.oracle.com> X-Spook: president David John Oates Treasury red noise Compsec X-Ran: KB8CXi~lpLBW]&p}bPuaWRzjr.+I+hW9)5]MClA+nH}a@%32(:>zh~@=C)WI6okcIXeI=W X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:18:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: <5267D08F7F1C44448D90A2A4D99B754A@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:31:57 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10120-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Nothing can be done with this. 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