From unknown Tue Jun 24 06:55:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10051: 23.3; frame-identification Resent-From: kurn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10051 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 10051@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13213175427378 (code B ref -1); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:40:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2011 00:39:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ73F-0001up-QC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:39:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ73C-0001uc-KD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ72V-0006Ng-Jy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:17 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:52121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ72V-0006NV-IY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ72U-0008FT-4f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ72S-0006Mr-CD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:14 -0500 Received: from pobox.sfu.ca ([142.58.101.28]:37407) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ72S-0006MZ-1i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:12 -0500 Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by pobox.sfu.ca (8.13.6/8.13.5/SFU-6.0G) with ESMTP id pAF0c8a4017496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kurn@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.13.8+Sun/8.14.3/SFU-6.0C) id pAF0c7aS028003 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:38:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:38:07 -0800 From: kurn Message-ID: <20111115003807.GA20346@sfu.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) The frame indentification has disappeared from the mode-line in the latest Emacs. This is emacs -nw. Inspection shows the value of mode-line-frame-identification = (" ") I have put this work-around in my .emacs file: (unless window-system (setq mode-line-frame-identification '("-%F "))) So, I think that's what you need to know . . exactly which variable has a wrong value and what it is. Oh, I'm on OS X 10.4. There! I think that's everything. Andrew --text follows this line-- This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation, not to your local site managers! Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list and the gnu.emacs.bug news group, and at http://debbugs.gnu.org. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug. 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In GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, NS apple-appkit-824.48) of 2011-11-14 on d142-058-206-239.surrey.sfu.ca Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.824 configured using `configure '--with-ns'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f 5 m o d e - l i n e RET ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f U ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f H C-x b RET C-x C-b C-x b B TAB RET ESC ] f 8 C-x b * i TAB RET l l l l ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A RET m B u g s RET 1 ESC ] f 9 ESC ] f D ESC ] f U n ESC ] f D n ESC ] f D n ESC ] f D ESC ] f U ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f D ESC ] f H ESC x r e p o r t TAB RET Recent messages: ("emacs") For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type M-x about-emacs. Composing main Info directory...done Mark set [2 times] (" ") [3 times] Mark set [3 times] nonincremental-search-forward: Search failed: "mode-line" Mark set [2 times] Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr message sendmail ecomplete rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev nnheader gnus-util netrc time-date mm-util mail-prsvr gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash mail-utils emacsbug noutline outline easy-mmode dired regexp-opt info tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win easymenu tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process ns multi-tty emacs) From unknown Tue Jun 24 06:55:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10051: 23.3; frame-identification Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10051 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: kurn Cc: 10051@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10051-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10051.132131809411082 (code B ref 10051); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:49:02 +0000 Received: (at 10051) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2011 00:48:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7C9-0002sh-A1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:48:13 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10] ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7C7-0002sY-33 for 10051@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:48:12 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7BV-000566-Qf; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:47:33 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <20111115003807.GA20346@sfu.ca> X-Spook: wire transfer Pine Gap Legion of Doom Adriatic Albright X-Ran: 5m/]]mp|;DLRFFs.hf#$0k!7w`&W56#3?c?"YNVu@tjpI)K87,c$yv8!D|B/v7T-K@ELup X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:47:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20111115003807.GA20346@sfu.ca> (kurn@sfu.ca's message of "Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:38:07 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) kurn wrote: > The frame indentification has disappeared from the mode-line in the latest > Emacs. This is emacs -nw. > > Inspection shows the value of mode-line-frame-identification = (" ") term/ns-win.el contains: ;; Don't show the frame name; that's redundant with Nextstep. (setq-default mode-line-frame-identification '(" ")) so this is intentional. Whether it makes sense is another matter. (This is part of http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=4128 ) > In GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, NS apple-appkit-824.48) > of 2011-11-14 on d142-058-206-239.surrey.sfu.ca > Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.824 > configured using `configure '--with-ns'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 14 19:48:50 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2011 00:48:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7Ck-0002tv-Mg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:48:50 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10] ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7Ci-0002tp-PS for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:48:49 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7C8-00058G-Gj for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:48:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:48:12 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 10051 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) retitle 10051 ns-win.el changes default mode-line-frame-identification severity 10051 minor From unknown Tue Jun 24 06:55:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10051: 23.3; frame-identification Resent-From: Andrew Kurn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10051 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 10051@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10051-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10051.132131851511749 (code B ref 10051); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 10051) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2011 00:55:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7Iw-00033S-Bb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:55:14 -0500 Received: from pobox.sfu.ca ([142.58.101.28]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7Iu-00033K-5G for 10051@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:55:13 -0500 Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by pobox.sfu.ca (8.13.6/8.13.5/SFU-6.0G) with ESMTP id pAF0sYtx019445 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kurn@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.13.8+Sun/8.14.3/SFU-6.0C) id pAF0sXkM015559; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:54:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:54:33 -0800 From: Andrew Kurn Message-ID: <20111115005433.GD20346@sfu.ca> References: <20111115003807.GA20346@sfu.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) On Mon 14 Nov 2011 19:47 -0500, Glenn Morris wrote: > kurn wrote: > > > The frame indentification has disappeared from the mode-line in the latest > > Emacs. This is emacs -nw. > > > > Inspection shows the value of mode-line-frame-identification = (" ") > > term/ns-win.el contains: > > ;; Don't show the frame name; that's redundant with Nextstep. > (setq-default mode-line-frame-identification '(" ")) > > so this is intentional. > Whether it makes sense is another matter. > (This is part of http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=4128 ) Well, you know what my opinion would be . . . I remember in the old days, when we had a bug that was the result of thought, rather than just a stupid slip, we called it a "logic error". Maybe it would help to call it that. Andrew > > > In GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, NS apple-appkit-824.48) > > of 2011-11-14 on d142-058-206-239.surrey.sfu.ca > > Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.824 > > configured using `configure '--with-ns'' From unknown Tue Jun 24 06:55:41 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: kurn Subject: bug#10051: closed (Re: bug#10051: 23.3; frame-identification) Message-ID: References: <5vhb2642lu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20111115003807.GA20346@sfu.ca> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 10051 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs,ns Reply-To: 10051@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:06:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1321319161-15534-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1321319161-15534-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #10051: ns-win.el changes default mode-line-frame-identification which was filed against the emacs,ns package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 10051@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 10051: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D10051 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1321319161-15534-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 10051-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2011 01:05:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7TI-00042J-PV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:05:56 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10] ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7TH-00042C-AP for 10051-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:05:55 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ7Sg-00065l-3R; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:05:18 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 10051-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#10051: 23.3; frame-identification References: <20111115003807.GA20346@sfu.ca> <20111115005433.GD20346@sfu.ca> X-Spook: Peking counter terrorism Juiliett Class Submarine INSCOM X-Ran: +4]0LIb8cH@'E@h~@'3{6+.VLee0`Or>b1[URk$RA=%2{/1"qi?@!QNT;v=%j)`o="yLN} X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:05:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20111115005433.GD20346@sfu.ca> (Andrew Kurn's message of "Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:54:33 -0800") Message-ID: <5vhb2642lu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10051-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Version: 24.0.92 OK, I removed the setting from ns-win.el (it made no sense to me). Thanks for the report. ------------=_1321319161-15534-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2011 00:39:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ73F-0001up-QC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:39:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ73C-0001uc-KD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ72V-0006Ng-Jy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:17 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:52121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ72V-0006NV-IY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ72U-0008FT-4f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ72S-0006Mr-CD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:14 -0500 Received: from pobox.sfu.ca ([142.58.101.28]:37407) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ72S-0006MZ-1i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:38:12 -0500 Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by pobox.sfu.ca (8.13.6/8.13.5/SFU-6.0G) with ESMTP id pAF0c8a4017496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kurn@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.13.8+Sun/8.14.3/SFU-6.0C) id pAF0c7aS028003 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:38:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:38:07 -0800 From: kurn To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 23.3; frame-identification Message-ID: <20111115003807.GA20346@sfu.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) The frame indentification has disappeared from the mode-line in the latest Emacs. This is emacs -nw. Inspection shows the value of mode-line-frame-identification = (" ") I have put this work-around in my .emacs file: (unless window-system (setq mode-line-frame-identification '("-%F "))) So, I think that's what you need to know . . exactly which variable has a wrong value and what it is. Oh, I'm on OS X 10.4. There! I think that's everything. Andrew --text follows this line-- This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation, not to your local site managers! Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list and the gnu.emacs.bug news group, and at http://debbugs.gnu.org. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug. 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Composing main Info directory...done Mark set [2 times] (" ") [3 times] Mark set [3 times] nonincremental-search-forward: Search failed: "mode-line" Mark set [2 times] Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr message sendmail ecomplete rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev nnheader gnus-util netrc time-date mm-util mail-prsvr gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash mail-utils emacsbug noutline outline easy-mmode dired regexp-opt info tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win easymenu tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process ns multi-tty emacs) ------------=_1321319161-15534-1-- From unknown Tue Jun 24 06:55:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10051: closed (Re: bug#10051: 23.3; frame-identification) Resent-From: Andrew Kurn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10051 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 10051@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10051-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10051.132137750015885 (code B ref 10051); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 10051) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2011 17:18:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQMeK-00048A-Bu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:18:20 -0500 Received: from pobox.sfu.ca ([142.58.101.28]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQMeH-00047n-5k for 10051@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:18:18 -0500 Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by pobox.sfu.ca (8.13.6/8.13.5/SFU-6.0G) with ESMTP id pAFHHZKS011437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for <10051@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kurn@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.13.8+Sun/8.14.3/SFU-6.0C) id pAFHHY0h017371 for 10051@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:17:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:17:34 -0800 From: Andrew Kurn Message-ID: <20111115171734.GA3187@sfu.ca> References: <5vhb2642lu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20111115003807.GA20346@sfu.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) Well, it makes sense as long as you're using a windowing system. I get in trouble because I use emacs -nw, so all frames appear in one "window". Thus, I need a frame ID to tell me which one I'm looking at. You might want to set it based on whether you're windowing. (See code below.) Andrew On Tue 15 Nov 2011 01:06 +0000, GNU bug Tracking System wrote: > > Version: 24.0.92 > > OK, I removed the setting from ns-win.el (it made no sense to me). > Thanks for the report. > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:38:07 -0800 From: kurn To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 23.3; frame-identification > > The frame indentification has disappeared from the mode-line in the latest > Emacs. This is emacs -nw. > > Inspection shows the value of mode-line-frame-identification = (" ") > > I have put this work-around in my .emacs file: > (unless window-system (setq mode-line-frame-identification '("-%F "))) > > So, I think that's what you need to know . . exactly which variable > has a wrong value and what it is. > > Oh, I'm on OS X 10.4. There! I think that's everything. > > Andrew > From unknown Tue Jun 24 06:55:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10051: closed (Re: bug#10051: 23.3; frame-identification) Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10051 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andrew Kurn Cc: 10051@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10051-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10051.132137949724765 (code B ref 10051); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 10051) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2011 17:51:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQNAX-0006RO-JR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:51:37 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10] ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQNAV-0006RA-09 for 10051@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:51:35 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RQN9o-0008Ml-W8; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:50:53 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <5vhb2642lu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20111115003807.GA20346@sfu.ca> <20111115171734.GA3187@sfu.ca> X-Spook: New World Order UFO doctrine Saudi Arabia Freeh global X-Ran: x%dLFj=%|W-mWA'3rrjHR,fvzmXub}kiI7{Fr>a?ceiKt7[@]97)2c[Q1ZsGPK_2Cv+bG0 X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:50:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20111115171734.GA3187@sfu.ca> (Andrew Kurn's message of "Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:17:34 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Andrew Kurn wrote: > You might want to set it based on whether you're windowing. That's the default setting does, so it makes no sense for ns-win to mess with it.