Otherwise you end up with ‘emacs-daemon’ marked as “started” with # as its running value, causing an exception (type error) when attempting to stop it. > ┌──── > │ 2025-01-12 16:39:26 GNU Shepherd 1.0.0 (Guile 3.0.9, x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) > │ 2025-01-12 16:39:26 Starting service root... Nothing stands out here, but this log is much recent than your initial report. Is ‘herd status’ still hanging? IOW, is it 100% reproducible? Thanks, Ludo’.