> Do let me
> know if you'd like me to redo with the default menu bar setting,
Please do three things:
- Make the second frame with the default menu bar settings.
Frame size history in this case:
Frame size history of #<frame *Minibuf-1* 0x55ae52a5ce70>
x_create_frame_1 (5), TS=80x25~>1280x875, NS=80x25~>1296x875, IS=80x25~>1296x875, MS=32x70 IH IV
gui_figure_window_size (5), TS=1280x875~>1280x1260, TC=80x25~>80x36, NS=1296x875~>1296x1260, IS=1296x875~>1296x1260, MS=32x70 IH IV
scroll-bar-width (3), NS=1296x1260~>1328x1260, IS=1296x1260~>1328x1260, MS=160x175
scroll-bar-height (3), MS=160x175
menu-bar-lines (2), MS=160x175
x_create_frame_2 (0), MS=160x175
xg_frame_set_char_size, invisible, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1260, DS=1328x1260
xg_frame_set_char_size (5), MS=32x70 IH IV
x_make_frame_visible
MapNotify, not hidden & not iconified, PS=1328x1260, DS=1328x1260
ConfigureNotify, PS=1328x1260, XS=400x340, DS=1328x1260
xg_frame_resized, changed, PS=1328x1260, XS=400x340
change_frame_size_1, delayed, PS=1328x1260, XS=400x340, DS=1328x1260
tool-bar-lines (2), MS=160x175
xg_frame_set_char_size, visible, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1260, DS=400x340
+values, PS=200x195, XS=664x696
ConfigureNotify, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1258, DS=400x340
xg_frame_resized, changed, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1258, DS=400x340
change_frame_size_1, delayed, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1258, DS=400x340
change_frame_size (5), TS=1280x1260~>1280x1258, TC=80x36~>80x35, NS=1328x1260~>1328x1258, IS=1328x1260~>1328x1258, MS=32x70 IH IV
set_window_configuration (4), MS=160x175 IH IV
journalctl output:
9420: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 doesn't set gravity, using NW
9421: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 sets min width to 0, which makes no sense
9422: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 sets min height to 0, which makes no sense
9423: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Updating WM_NORMAL_HINTS for 0x5000318
9424: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 sets base size 64 x 84
9425: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 sets min size 128 x 238
9426: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 sets resize width inc: 16 height inc: 34
9427: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 sets gravity 1
9428: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 has height_inc (34) that does not evenly divide min_height - base_height (238 - 84); thus effective min_height is really 254
9429: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000318 in move from 0,0 1328x1308 to 0,0 400x456
9459: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: require_titlebar_visible for 0x5000318 toggled to FALSE
9460: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Setting _NET_FRAME_EXTENTS on managed window 0x5000318 to left = 0, right = 0, top = 56, bottom = 0
9462: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000318 in move from 0,58 400x446 to 0,0 400x456
9490: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: require_titlebar_visible for 0x5000318 toggled to TRUE
9492: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Sending synthetic configure notify to 0x5000318 with x: 160 y: 274 w: 400 h: 390
9493: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000318 in move from 160,218 400x446 to 160,218 400x456
9524: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000318 in move from 160,218 400x446 to 160,218 400x456
9555: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Updating WM_NORMAL_HINTS for 0x5000318
9556: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 sets base size 64 x 166
9557: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 sets min size 128 x 476
9558: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 sets resize width inc: 16 height inc: 34
9559: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 sets gravity 1
9560: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000318 has height_inc (34) that does not evenly divide min_height - base_height (476 - 166); thus effective min_height is really 506
9561: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000318 in move from 160,218 400x446 to 160,218 1328x1446
9592: Nov 05 22:31:36 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000318 in move from 160,218 1328x1446 to 160,218 1328x1446
9623: Nov 05 22:31:38 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000318 in move from 160,218 1328x1446 to 160,218 1328x1446
9654: Nov 05 22:31:44 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000318 in move from 160,218 1328x1446 to 160,218 1328x1446
- Make the first frame where in an early-init.el file you disable the
menu bar with a (menu-bar-lines . 0) entry in 'initial-frame-alist'.
Frame size history:
Frame size history of #<frame *Minibuf-1* - GNU Emacs at dwks 0x62c518283b88>
x_create_frame_1 (5), TS=80x25~>1280x875, NS=80x25~>1296x875, IS=80x25~>1296x875, MS=32x70 IH IV
gui_figure_window_size (5), TS=1280x875~>1280x1260, TC=80x25~>80x36, NS=1296x875~>1296x1260, IS=1296x875~>1296x1260, MS=32x70 IH IV
scroll-bar-width (3), NS=1296x1260~>1328x1260, IS=1296x1260~>1328x1260, MS=160x175
scroll-bar-height (3), MS=160x175
x_create_frame_2 (0), MS=160x175
xg_frame_set_char_size, invisible, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1260, DS=1328x1260
xg_frame_set_char_size (5), MS=32x70 IH IV
x_make_frame_visible
MapNotify, not hidden & not iconified, PS=1328x1260, DS=1328x1260
ConfigureNotify, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1260, DS=1328x1260
xg_frame_resized, unchanged, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1260
ConfigureNotify, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1258, DS=1328x1260
xg_frame_resized, changed, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1258
change_frame_size_1, delayed, PS=1328x1260, XS=1328x1258, DS=1328x1260
change_frame_size (5), TS=1280x1260~>1280x1258, TC=80x36~>80x35, NS=1328x1260~>1328x1258, IS=1328x1260~>1328x1258, MS=32x70 IH IV
tool-bar-lines (2), MS=160x175
xg_frame_set_char_size, visible, PS=1328x1258, XS=1328x1258
+values, PS=664x629, XS=664x670
ConfigureNotify, PS=1328x1258, XS=1328x1258
xg_frame_resized, unchanged, PS=1328x1258, XS=1328x1258
set_window_configuration (4), MS=160x175 IH IV
journalctl output:
10776: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 doesn't set gravity, using NW
10777: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets min width to 0, which makes no sense
10778: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets min height to 0, which makes no sense
10779: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Updating WM_NORMAL_HINTS for 0x5000148
10780: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets base size 0 x 0
10781: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets min size 0 x 0
10782: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets resize width inc: 2 height inc: 2
10783: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets gravity 1
10784: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets min width to 0, which makes no sense
10785: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets min height to 0, which makes no sense
10786: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 has width_inc (2) that does not evenly divide min_width - base_width (1 - 0); thus effective min_width is really 2
10787: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 has height_inc (2) that does not evenly divide min_height - base_height (1 - 0); thus effective min_height is really 2
10788: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000148 in move from 0,0 1328x1260 to 0,0 1328x1316
10818: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: require_titlebar_visible for 0x5000148 toggled to FALSE
10819: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Setting _NET_FRAME_EXTENTS on managed window 0x5000148 to left = 0, right = 0, top = 56, bottom = 0
10821: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000148 in move from 0,58 1328x1316 to 0,0 1328x1316
10849: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: require_titlebar_visible for 0x5000148 toggled to TRUE
10851: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Sending synthetic configure notify to 0x5000148 with x: 80 y: 194 w: 1328 h: 1260
10854: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000148 in move from 80,138 1328x1316 to 80,138 1328x1316
10885: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Updating WM_NORMAL_HINTS for 0x5000148
10886: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets base size 64 x 34
10887: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets min size 128 x 102
10888: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets resize width inc: 16 height inc: 34
10889: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets gravity 1
10890: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000148 in move from 80,138 1328x1316 to 80,138 1328x1314
10921: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000148 in move from 80,138 1328x1314 to 80,138 1328x1314
10952: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Updating WM_NORMAL_HINTS for 0x5000148
10953: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets base size 64 x 116
10954: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets min size 128 x 340
10955: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets resize width inc: 16 height inc: 34
10956: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 sets gravity 1
10957: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x5000148 has height_inc (34) that does not evenly divide min_height - base_height (340 - 116); thus effective min_height is really 354
10958: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000148 in move from 80,138 1328x1314 to 80,138 1328x1396
10989: Nov 05 22:45:08 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000148 in move from 80,138 1328x1396 to 80,138 1328x1396
11051: Nov 05 22:45:20 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x5000148 in move from 80,138 1328x1396 to 80,138 1328x1396
- Make the second frame with menu bar mode disabled and any toolkit
where the second frame has the normal size.
So here I rebuilt Emacs reconfigured with --with-x-toolkit=lucid
Frame size history of #<frame *Minibuf-1* 0x5885e759c460>
x_create_frame_1 (5), TS=80x25~>1280x875, NS=80x25~>1298x877, IS=80x25~>1296x875, MS=32x70 IH IV
tool-bar-lines (1), NS=1298x877~>1298x912, MS=160x175
tool-bar-position (3), MS=160x175
gui_figure_window_size (5), TS=1280x875~>1280x1260, TC=80x25~>80x36, NS=1298x912~>1298x1313, IS=1296x875~>1296x1260, MS=32x70 IH IV
update_from_various_frame_slots, PS=1298x1313, XS=1298x1313
set_frame_size
EmacsFrameRealize
EmacsFrameResize, PS=1298x1313, XS=1298x1313
change_frame_size_1, delayed, PS=1298x1313, XS=1298x1313
scroll-bar-width (3), NS=1298x1313~>1314x1313, IS=1296x1260~>1312x1260, MS=160x175
scroll-bar-height (3), MS=160x175
x_create_frame_2 (0), MS=160x175
x_set_window_size_1, invisible, PS=1314x1313, XS=1314x1313, DS=1314x1313
x_set_window_size_1 (5), MS=32x70 IH IV
EmacsFrameResize, PS=1314x1313, XS=1314x1313, DS=1314x1313
EmacsFrameResize, PS=1314x1313, XS=1314x1313, DS=1314x1313
x_make_frame_visible
MapNotify, not hidden & not iconified, PS=1314x1313, DS=1314x1313
change_frame_size (5), MS=32x70 IH IV
EmacsFrameResize, PS=1314x1313, XS=1314x1313
change_frame_size_1, delayed, PS=1314x1313, XS=1314x1313
journalctl output:
11456: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x50002fd doesn't set gravity, using NW
11457: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x50002fd sets min width to 0, which makes no sense
11458: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x50002fd sets min height to 0, which makes no sense
11459: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Updating WM_NORMAL_HINTS for 0x50002fd
11460: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x50002fd sets base size 34 x 53
11461: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x50002fd sets min size 34 x 53
11462: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x50002fd sets resize width inc: 16 height inc: 35
11463: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Window 0x50002fd sets gravity 1
11465: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x50002fd in move from 0,0 1314x1313 to 0,0 1314x1369
11495: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: require_titlebar_visible for 0x50002fd toggled to FALSE
11496: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Setting _NET_FRAME_EXTENTS on managed window 0x50002fd to left = 0, right = 0, top = 56, bottom = 0
11498: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Constraining 0x50002fd in move from 0,58 1314x1369 to 0,0 1314x1369
11526: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: require_titlebar_visible for 0x50002fd toggled to TRUE
11528: Nov 05 22:53:55 dwks gnome-shell[3900]: GEOMETRY: Sending synthetic configure notify to 0x50002fd with x: 160 y: 274 w: 1314 h: 1313
> before I
> reply to the rest of your questions, and apologies if this confused things.
There are no questions IIRC, just some speculations. Obviously, if you
have any idea about how to include debug information (geometry, size
requests) from GTK too, then we should be able to get the whole picture.
https://docs.gtk.org/gtk3/running.html suggests that setting GTK_DEBUG=geometry ought to help, but it requires gtk to be built with --enable-debug=yes. When I run emacs built with Ubuntu's supplied gtk, I get:
GTK_DEBUG=geometry ./src/emacs
(emacs:922673): Gtk-WARNING **: 22:58:57.468: GTK_DEBUG set but ignored because gtk isn't built with G_ENABLE_DEBUG