On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 6:04 PM David Rosenbaum <djr7c4@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Also they were designed to abbreviate prefixes, not full symbol names,
so the db idea is probably not going to work. As far as I remember, these
things were well explained in the manual...
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> Intended or not, shorthands are being used this way by packages authors.
For example, see cond-let and llama.


Are these packages even in Emacs?

> > By the way, I understand the problem easily now. The symbol 'dbus' has
the prefix 'db' and when the example file is read 'dbus' becomes
'cl-destructuring-bindus'. This happens at read-time well before evaluation
or byte-compilation.
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> (require 'dbus) isn't in the example file though. It's in tramp-gvfs
which was precompiled when emacs was built. It is tramp-gvfs that is
required from the example file.

I see the problem and have reproduced it.  It's a bug.  And I don't
understand it.  The `tramp-gvfs` file should have been read long before the
shorthand was established in in the example file.