> On 22 Jul 2025, at 14:41, Gerd Möllmann wrote: > > Stéphane Marks writes: > >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 9:22 AM Gerd Möllmann wrote: >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>>> Ok to install, Eli? >>> >>> Maybe. I'm not sure I understand what are the conclusions from your >>> experience, which eventually needed to use tcutil. Are we sure this >>> is just a fluke and not a more fundamental problem? >> >> tccutil is a program that removes entries from a database containing >> application-specific privacy settings. For example, if an app wants to >> use the microphone or camera and such, it has to ask for permission, and >> the result of that lands in that TCC database. 'tcc reset' clears such >> entries. >> >> It's very possible that I denied Emacs access to the microphone in the >> past because I routinely do that :-). Also to the camera, of course, and >> such things. That may have been years ago, because I migrate my settings >> from machine to machine for a very long time. And if so, it would have >> been for a different dictation system because that whole thing changed >> some years ago, around macOS 14, not sure. >> >> Anyway, the current dictation system apparently doesn't require special >> privacy privileges, i.e. macOS doesn't ask for permission to use the >> microphone for the current incarnation of dictation. But dictation also >> doesn't work if one has "deny settings" in the TCC database. After >> clearing these entries in with `tccutil reset`, Emacs now works like any >> other app. >> >> So it seems at least. That's about what I can say. >> >> So far, the patch does not work on macOS 12.7.6 (the only version I use across my Intel Macs). So something else is missing? > > Time for OCLP, given that Monterey not longer receives security updates? +1 I’d like to propose we treat macOS 12.7.6 / Intel as a separate issue if that’s ok? We have a handful of folks who validated the fix is working in this thread https://indieweb.social/@xenodium/114891280426640026 I’ve validated on macOS 15.3 / ARM myself. The thread also mentions macOS 15.5 validated. > https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/ > > (I've used OCLP very successfully on a MBP from 2013 until it finally > died a year ago :-(.)