On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 9:22 AM Gerd Möllmann wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Ok to install, Eli? > > > > Maybe. I'm not sure I understand what are the conclusions from your > > experience, which eventually needed to use tcutil. Are we sure this > > is just a fluke and not a more fundamental problem? > > tccutil is a program that removes entries from a database containing > application-specific privacy settings. For example, if an app wants to > use the microphone or camera and such, it has to ask for permission, and > the result of that lands in that TCC database. 'tcc reset' clears such > entries. > > It's very possible that I denied Emacs access to the microphone in the > past because I routinely do that :-). Also to the camera, of course, and > such things. That may have been years ago, because I migrate my settings > from machine to machine for a very long time. And if so, it would have > been for a different dictation system because that whole thing changed > some years ago, around macOS 14, not sure. > > Anyway, the current dictation system apparently doesn't require special > privacy privileges, i.e. macOS doesn't ask for permission to use the > microphone for the current incarnation of dictation. But dictation also > doesn't work if one has "deny settings" in the TCC database. After > clearing these entries in with `tccutil reset`, Emacs now works like any > other app. > > So it seems at least. That's about what I can say. > So far, the patch does not work on macOS 12.7.6 (the only version I use across my Intel Macs). So something else is missing?