$ emacs -Q (require 'secrets nil t) (secrets-get-secret "Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt") "this work's because i had keepassxc open before emacs" if i restart keepassxc and try again then i get a backtrace Debugger entered--Lisp error: (dbus-error "org.freedesktop.Secret.Error.NoSession") signal(dbus-error ("org.freedesktop.Secret.Error.NoSession")) dbus-call-method(:session "org.freedesktop.secrets" "/org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/Richie/b25f5d1a9106417492657a0eae1db782" "org.freedesktop.Secret.Item" "GetSecret" :object-path "/") secrets-get-secret("Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt") (progn (defvar my/ediff-pairs) (defvar my/video-file-regex) (defvar org-planfile) (defvar my/yogadora) (defvar my/yogabuntu) (defvar my/rakmac) (defvar my/oplmac) (defvar my/duckbookpro) (defvar my/yogadows) (secrets-get-secret "Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt")) eval((progn (defvar my/ediff-pairs) (defvar my/video-file-regex) (defvar org-planfile) (defvar my/yogadora) (defvar my/yogabuntu) (defvar my/rakmac) (defvar my/oplmac) (defvar my/duckbookpro) (defvar my/yogadows) (secrets-get-secret "Richie" "emacs auth source for org crypt")) t) elisp--eval-last-sexp(nil) #f(compiled-function () #)() handler-bind-1(#f(compiled-function () #) (error) eval-expression--debug) eval-last-sexp(nil) funcall-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil) command-execute(eval-last-sexp) the session isn't refreshed. it's stale. In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 4, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.43, cairo version 1.18.2) of 2025-04-05 built on fedora Repository revision: 8ac894e2246f25d2a2a97d866b10e6e0b0fede5a Repository branch: HEAD System Description: Fedora Linux 41 (Workstation Edition) Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=no --with-mailutils --with-native-compilation --without-x --with-gnutls --with-threads --with-modules --with-zlib --with-tree-sitter --with-sqlite3 --with-pgtk --with-rsvg' Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: ELisp/l Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t minibuffer-regexp-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util time-date mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils help-fns radix-tree cl-print byte-opt gv debug backtrace help-mode find-func compile text-property-search comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring comp-run bytecomp byte-compile comp-common rx display-line-numbers secrets dbus xml subr-x vc-git diff-mode track-changes easy-mmode vc-dispatcher cl-loaddefs cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/pgtk-win pgtk-win term/common-win touch-screen pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo gtk pgtk multi-tty move-toolbar make-network-process native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 110808 9473) (symbols 48 8237 0) (strings 32 29262 1738) (string-bytes 1 879652) (vectors 16 17821) (vector-slots 8 214459 9445) (floats 8 47 668) (intervals 56 987 15) (buffers 992 16))