On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 19:29 Christopher Stacy wrote: > > On 3/21/25 7:16 PM, Ship Mints wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 7:11 PM Christopher Stacy wrote: > >> On 3/21/25 6:32 PM, Ship Mints wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 6:16 PM Christopher Stacy >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, I forgot to say: This is all about fullscreen frames. >>> >>> You never use them. I use fullscreen exclusively, for Emacs. >>> >>> When I am in Emacs (which is all day every day), I just want Emacs in >>> front of me. No menu bars, titlebars. or anything! >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Firefox does the stupid effect in full screen mode, too, turns out. >>> So we can't look there for the answer. >>> >>> I don't think the correct solution is to change a setting on the OS, >>> since railwaycat Emacs does the right thing without external adjustments. >>> >>> This bug is in fact what has kept me on his hacked Emacs all these >>> years. But due to other bugs I have been forced to upgrade to Emacs 30, >>> and I don't think he's going to update from 29. >>> >> >> Looking at nsfns and nsterm 29.4 vs. 30.1 I don't see anything that >> stands out. >> >> Where did you get your 29.4 and 30.1 builds? >> >> The bugs forcing me to upgrade to 30.1 are entirely unrelated to >> windowing. (Just other things that were broken and recently fixed.) >> >> Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2113 >> System Description: macOS 12.7.6 >> >> Emacs 29 is the railwaycat version from Homebrew. >> This has the behavior that I want (no effects). >> brew tap railwaycat/emacsmacport >> Which supposedly comes from: >> https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport >> GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin20.6.0, Carbon Version 164 >> AppKit 2022.7) of 2023-08-08 >> >> Emacs 30.1 I got from: https://emacsformacosx.com/ >> (I wish I knew who that entity is. I wonder if it has malware.) >> GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS appkit-1671.60 >> Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G9323)) of 2025-02-24 >> >> Is there an easy way to tell what compiler options were used on these >> builds? (Maybe some emacs command will tell me?) >> > It doesn't really take much effort to click around Caldwell's site and > find out more. You should. > > What is a "Caldwell"? > You'll see. >