e.g., Emacs 30.1 embeds project.el: ;; Copyright (C) 2015-2025 Free Software Foundation, Inc. ;; Version: 0.11.1 ;; Package-Requires: ((emacs "26.1") (xref "1.7.0")) The not-newer version package downloaded from the archives: ;; Copyright (C) 2015-2024 Free Software Foundation, Inc. ;; Version: 0.11.1 ;; Package-Requires: ((emacs "26.1") (xref "1.7.0")) On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 10:41 AM Ship Mints wrote: > "replace with newer versions from the archives" is not what's happening. > It seems to replace with identical versions, just from the archives. > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 10:39 AM Philip Kaludercic > wrote: > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> From: Ship Mints >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 15:35:10 -0500 >> >> >> >> As part of my production upgrade to 30.1, I wrote a program to install >> >> my local ELPA tree from scratch, and take the opportunity to prune and >> >> curate packages. >> >> >> >> One thing that surprised me, that I didn't notice in 29.4, is that if >> >> 'package-install-upgrade-built-in' is non-nil, 'package-list-packages' >> >> reports built-ins needing upgrades from ELPA but to the *identical >> >> versions* in the 30.1 tree. I was expecting upgrades to be actual >> >> upgrades, not side-grades, as they say. The reason I didn't see >> >> this on 29.4, is that the distro versions were older than ELPA so I >> >> was happy to take the upgrades. This does not appear to be a >> >> regression, just a general bug report. >> > >> > Philip, could you please look into this? >> >> (emacs) Package Installation says: >> >> If you customize ‘package-install-upgrade-built-in’ to a non-‘nil’ >> value, be very careful when using commands that update many packages at >> once, like ‘package-upgrade-all’ and ‘U’ in the package menu: those >> might overwrite built-in packages that you didn't intent to replace with >> newer versions from the archives. Don't use these bulk commands if you >> want to update only a small number of built-in packages. >> >> I read this as that OPs behaviour what the option intends to do. >> >