"replace with newer versions from the archives" is not what's happening. It seems to replace with identical versions, just from the archives. On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 10:39 AM Philip Kaludercic wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Ship Mints > >> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 15:35:10 -0500 > >> > >> As part of my production upgrade to 30.1, I wrote a program to install > >> my local ELPA tree from scratch, and take the opportunity to prune and > >> curate packages. > >> > >> One thing that surprised me, that I didn't notice in 29.4, is that if > >> 'package-install-upgrade-built-in' is non-nil, 'package-list-packages' > >> reports built-ins needing upgrades from ELPA but to the *identical > >> versions* in the 30.1 tree. I was expecting upgrades to be actual > >> upgrades, not side-grades, as they say. The reason I didn't see > >> this on 29.4, is that the distro versions were older than ELPA so I > >> was happy to take the upgrades. This does not appear to be a > >> regression, just a general bug report. > > > > Philip, could you please look into this? > > (emacs) Package Installation says: > > If you customize ‘package-install-upgrade-built-in’ to a non-‘nil’ > value, be very careful when using commands that update many packages at > once, like ‘package-upgrade-all’ and ‘U’ in the package menu: those > might overwrite built-in packages that you didn't intent to replace with > newer versions from the archives. Don't use these bulk commands if you > want to update only a small number of built-in packages. > > I read this as that OPs behaviour what the option intends to do. >