Dear libtoolers, my project uses C, C++, Fortran 77. One library consists of mixed CC and F77 sources. I intend to switch to more modern Fortran (FC) for this library. Linking this library with F77LINK worked well. Switching to FCLINK causes errors for some compilers due to broken postedeps_FC. - For HPE Cray PrgEnv-cray's ftn, postedeps_FC contains '... -L -L ...'. - For HPE Cray PrgEnv-gnu's ftn, OpenMPI's and MPICH's mpifort (delegating to gfortran), postedeps_FC contains '... -l -l ...'. During investigating the cause of the broken postdeps_FC, several questions arose. 1. Why do we have postdeps for CXX and FC, but not for CC and F77? _LT_SYS_HIDDEN_LIBDEPS is expanded in _LT_LANG_CXX_CONFIG and _LT_LANG_FC_CONFIG only. 2. Why do we need postdeps at all? Isn't the compiler supposed to do just the right thing? 3. Without a C++ compiler (AC_PROG_CXX), postedeps_FC is always empty, as output_verbose_link_cmd, the command producing the input to determine the postdeps, is set in _LT_LANG_CXX_CONFIG only. If this is coupling intended, can you please explain why? Now, where do the bogus `... -L -L ...` and `... -l -l ...` come from? The output_verbose_link_cmd used for CXX and FC postdeps is '$CC -shared $CFLAGS -v conftest.$objext 2>&1 | $GREP -v "^Configured with:" | $GREP " [[-]]L"' For the compilers mentioned above, the output of this command contains a line starting with 'Driving:', e.g., Driving: /p/software/jedi/stages/2025/software/GCCcore/13.3.0/bin/gfortran -shared -g -O2 -v conftest.o -I/p/software/default/stages/2025/software/OpenMPI/5.0.5-GCC-13.3.0/include -I/p/software/default/stages/2025/software/OpenMPI/5.0.5-GCC-13.3.0/lib -L/p/software/default/stages/2025/software/OpenMPI/5.0.5-GCC-13.3.0/lib -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/p/software/default/stages/2025/software/OpenMPI/5.0.5-GCC-13.3.0/lib -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -lmpi_usempif08 -lmpi_usempi_ignore_tkr -lmpi_mpifh -lmpi -l gfortran -l m -shared-libgcc The part '-l gfortran -l m' results in '... -l -l ...' Lines starting with 'Configured with:' are already omitted in output_verbose_link_cmd. Omitting lines starting with 'Driving:' as well would fix the invalid postdeps_FC. Note that autoconf's _AC_PROG_FC_V_OUTPUT also omits both, '^Driving:' and '^Configured with:', see [1]. A patch omitting lines '^Driving:' is attached. But do we need to expand _LT_SYS_HIDDEN_LIBDEPS for FC at all? Thanks, Christian [1] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=autoconf.git;a=blob;f=lib/autoconf/fortran.m4;h=cdc197bd67f4abab036cfe6a3a59d16aa712a386;hb=6199cff2909e0ac84c9391aa49ed097d6a33268d#l514