On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 at 06:34, Gerd Möllmann wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > What is the value of z_order? > > Len, can you please print > > p root->visible > (gdb) p root->visible $1 = 0 (gdb) p z_order $2 = (Lisp_Object) 0x0