>>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > Ping! Ping! Daniel, please respond. Sorry, I wanted to have a better understanding of the issue first, but James' patch seems to work well AFAICT from testing; I've attached a simpler patch which basically achieves the same result, which I think should be applied. >>>>> James Thomas writes: >> Thank you very much for looking into this, I'm assuming this means >> that Gnus tries to use the value of 'nnfeed-status-string', >> instead of the nnatom equivalent, right? (I honestly also hate >> OOP, and I find the flavor implemented in Gnus especially >> confusing). If so, this seems like a good solution, though I >> wonder why it works without this fix sometimes (and if it'll still >> work in those cases with this applied). > > I suspect that those may be when -status-message is called rather > than -status-string (through nnheader), in which case it's through > nnoo. AFAICT the issue occurs when -status-message is called, actually, through 'gnus-status-message', see 'gnus-browse-foreign-server': (defun gnus-browse-foreign-server (server &optional return-buffer) "Browse the server SERVER." ... (cond ((not (gnus-check-server method)) (gnus-message 1 "Unable to contact server %s: %s" (nth 1 method) (gnus-status-message method)) nil) ((not (prog2 (gnus-message 6 "Reading active file...") (gnus-request-list method) (gnus-message 6 "Reading active file...done"))) (gnus-message 1 "Couldn't request list: %s" (gnus-status-message method)) nil) ... Stepping through with Edebug, it seems the actual function called is 'nnatom-status-message' as expected, only that it returns nil; with the patch (yours or mine) applied, it returns the expected string. 'nnatom-status-message' is defined through 'nnfeed-define-basic-backend-interface', and its definition should be: (deffoo nnatom-status-message (&optional server) (nnoo-status-message 'nnatom server))) 'nnoo-status-message' uses nnheader to get the status string for the correct backend, but it returns nil; my patch uses the same method to get the same string, and set it for the parent backend (nnfeed) as well, when failing to request a list, which somehow causes 'nnatom-status-message' to return the correct string (even though the value it should read is not modified by my patch or yours). In any case, I would appreciate any more insight into this. Daniel