20 aug. 2020 kl. 15.08 skrev Lars Ingebrigtsen : > Mattias? I don't want to revive this discussion and consider the matter settled, but since you asked: Suppose we add standard-colour-darkness-predicate, say, with color-dark-p being the default and (r+b+g)/3<0.6 the 'traditional' option (or the default, if you prefer). How would the effects of that choice be explained to the user? A difference is only visible when: 1. a face sensitive to the background mode is used (many standard faces are), and 2. a background colour used that is judged differently by the available predicates Most reasonable backgrounds are either too light or too dark to pass the latter criterion, but people's idea of what is reasonable varies. For instance, black-on-green text is somewhat readable, but emacs -bg green -fg black will give mostly bad default faces (for instance, the minibuffer prompt is almost invisible). With color-dark-p it becomes workable (attached diff). Whether this is reason enough to add a defcustom is something I won't comment on. I doubt anyone will change it, whatever the default would be.