Thanks Eric & Bob.  Good stuff.  I'm still slightly foggy on why I get different answers subtracting 35 days from seemingly the same point in time.. [tschaefer@schaefer-test ~]$ date  -d 'last Thursday' Thu Mar 29 00:00:00 CDT 2012 [tschaefer@schaefer-test ~]$ date  -d 'Thu Mar 29 00:00:00 CDT 2012 - 35 days' Wed Feb 22 23:00:00 CST 2012 [tschaefer@schaefer-test ~]$ date -d 'last Thursday - 35 days' Thu Feb 23 00:00:00 CST 2012 But, I'm probably just to dense to get it. Thanks again for the help.  The suggestion of using "noon today" when subtracting days from a date is an excellent one. Tom Schaefer --- On Thu, 3/29/12, Bob Proulx wrote: From: Bob Proulx Subject: Re: bug#11125: date command calculations are not consistent To: "Thomas R. Schaefer" , 11125@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thursday, March 29, 2012, 10:35 PM Eric Blake wrote: > Thomas R. Schaefer wrote: > > In this case date does take DST into account in a relative date operation.. > > > > [root@schaefer-test ~]# date -d "last Thursday - 21 days" > > Thu Mar  1 00:00:00 CST 2012 > > But notice what date -d "last Thursday" is: > > $ TZ=CST date -d 'last Thursday CST' > Thu Mar 22 00:00:00 CST 2012 > > It's relative to the 'CST' timezone, which is an hour different from the > CDT timezone. Additionally it is working near the problematic midnight time when crosing DST boundaries may cause problems. > > If the date command where being consistent in following the > > consensus that "relative date operations add or subtract in > > multiples of 24 hours, without regards to daylight savings > > boundaries" then both of the above date commands would return Wed > > Feb 29 23:00:00 CST 2012. > > Only if you start from the same point in time in both commands, which > you didn't. For an example always use a time in addition to a day.  Never default to midnight.  Instead use 12:00 noon to avoid the DST problems.   $ TZ=US/Mountain date -R -d 'last Thursday'   Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:00:00 -0600 That is problematic usage.  But specifying the time as 12:00 noon solves the problem.   $ TZ=US/Mountain date -R -d '12:00 last Thursday'   Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:00:00 -0600 Then doing calculations will be more reliable.   $ TZ=US/Mountain date -R -d '12:00 last Thursday - 21 days'   Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:00:00 -0700 Note that I always use -R to obtain an unambiguous format.  Using the default format isn't unambiguous as there are multiple timezones with the same names. Doing calculations on weeks and months have similar issues.  When doing calculations on months I always work with the middle of the month to avoid the difference in lenghts of months. Generate a reference date in the middle of the month.   $ date +%Y-%m-15   2012-03-15 Use that date for month calculations.   $ date --date="$(date +%Y-%m-15) -1 month" +'Last month was %B.'   Last month was February. Please see the FAQ for more examples:   http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/#The-date-command-is-not-working-right_002e Unfortunately the human date parsing that was added to date is a rather simplistic implementation. Bob