Hi, So sorry, I give up on Bazaar. I can understand cvs was not optimal for such a big project, but the VC chaos that has sprung up since is terrible! Somehow I managed some time ago to download a gigantic emacs bzr repository. But I used emacs VC commands to check in my patch, it doesn't show up in the internet and neither your quick start guide, nor the doc tells me why. So I try to follow your instructions to set up my local sandbox anew, to no avail: $ bzr checkout *bzr+ssh*://pfeiffer@bzr.savannah.gnu.org/srv/bzr/emacs/trunk trunk bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://pfeiffer@bzr.savannah.gnu.org/srv/bzr/emacs/trunk/". $ bzr checkout *sftp*://pfeiffer@bzr.savannah.gnu.org/srv/bzr/emacs/trunk trunk subsystem request failed on channel 0 bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bzr.savannah.gnu.org; EOF during negotiation This has been going on for several days. So please just accept a plain old submission: 2011-12-01 pfeiffer * progmodes/make-mode.el: Bring it up to date with imminent makepp V2.0. coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn Daniel Pfeiffer -- lerne / learn / apprends / lär dig / ucz się Esperanto: http://lernu.net / http://ikurso.net